Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

cogito

Arklight wrote: »

Unbelievable. It looks like a Brexiteer thug has even invaded our Eurovision entry.

Anyone supporting this "movement" should find their cheeks burning with shame.

Makes a change from Momentum thugs abusing Jewish MPs.

Honey_Badger

Arklight wrote: »

Unbelievable. It looks like a Brexiteer thug has even invaded our Eurovision entry.

Anyone supporting this "movement" should find their cheeks burning with shame.

As the idiot is a European citizen and isn’t a British one, I think we can safely say he isn’t a Brexiteer.

It would however appear that you’ve used his cheap stunt to make false accusations in a pathetic attempt to criticise those who want to leave the EU.

Honey_Badger

cogito wrote: »

Makes a change from Momentum thugs abusing Jewish MPs.

Well, he is a Corbyn supporter he’s made several tweets supporting him and his policies.

fatbeetle

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Simply increasing pay levels. Isn't going to stop experienced staff exiting the NHS. It's the culture, the abuse from the public, demand from the public to provide the answers without any personal responsibility , poor management etc that needs to be addressed also.

Having worked in (mental) healthcare, both in the UK and Australia, the biggest burden on health staff is the over bureaucratisation, and over management, of the services which causes most pain.

fatbeetle

Honey_Badger wrote: »

As the idiot is a European citizen and isn!!!8217;t a British one, I think we can safely say he isn!!!8217;t a Brexiteer.

It would however appear that you!!!8217;ve used his cheap stunt to make false accusations in a pathetic attempt to criticise those who want to leave the EU.

Interesting, where do you get your insider knowledge from? Seeing as most papers are saying he is the same idiot who invaded the "Voice" final, and The National Television awards, it would appear he is British.

Seeing as he shouted;

"For the Nazis of the UK media, we demand freedom."

Possibly not what he wanted to say, but bless him he did his best. So, where do you get the idea he's "European" from?

vivatifosi

fatbeetle wrote: »

Interesting, where do you get your insider knowledge from? Seeing as most papers are saying he is the same idiot who invaded the "Voice" final, and The National Television awards, it would appear he is British.

Seeing as he shouted;

"For the Nazis of the UK media, we demand freedom."

Possibly not what he wanted to say, but bless him he did his best. So, where do you get the idea he's "European" from?

He's definitely been operating out of the UK as he has pulled similar stunts in the UK and the papers reported that he is a momentum supporter.

However Sky reporting the Portuese police said he was an EU national, not British.

Maybe both are correct. Time will tell.

Honey_Badger

fatbeetle wrote: »

Interesting, where do you get your insider knowledge from? Seeing as most papers are saying he is the same idiot who invaded the "Voice" final, and The National Television awards, it would appear he is British.

Seeing as he shouted;

"For the Nazis of the UK media, we demand freedom."

Possibly not what he wanted to say, but bless him he did his best. So, where do you get the idea he's "European" from?

The BBC

The invader is in police custody, the European Broadcasting Union said. He is understood to be a European citizen but not British.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44097050

Then there's these Twitter messages with video of him

https://twitter.com/hashtag/CreativeismMovmentShow?src=hash

Rinoa

vivatifosi wrote: »

He's definitely been operating out of the UK as he has pulled similar stunts in the UK and the papers reported that he is a momentum supporter.

However Sky reporting the Portuese police said he was an EU national, not British.

Maybe both are correct. Time will tell.

https://order-order.com/2018/05/12/eurovision-stage-invader-corbynista/

He's made many tweets and videos endorsing Jeremy Corbyn. The vids would suggest he's not British.

wunferall

Arklight wrote: »

Unbelievable. It looks like a Brexiteer thug has even invaded our Eurovision entry.

Anyone supporting this "movement" should find their cheeks burning with shame.

No it's not unbelievable, it's a prime example of the psychology of remainers in this thread.

Form your own opinion without even thinking about finding out who is responsible, just to suit your anti-Brexit bias. Write a damning, vindictive post to suit this unfounded bias purely in order to score points with followers. Then scarper sharpish, with absolutely no concern whatsoever regarding the falsity of what has been said.

It's a pretty accurate summary of how Team Remain lost the referendum too.

wunferall

phillw wrote: »

It wasn't vague at all, they said two things:

Let us fund our NHS instead.
Let us take back control.

Repeatedly we are told that if we don't take back control then you aren't honouring the referendum and delivering the will of the people.

It therefore follows that if we don't give 350 million a week then you aren't honouring the referendum and delivering the will of the people.

Jacob Reese Mogg and the other leave MPs either needs to accept Brexit In Name Only, or give 350 million a week to the NHS. Otherwise they are just hypocrites looking out for their own interest.

Seems pretty clear to me.


If their argument is that the leave campaign had no right to make any promise that the NHS would receive the 350 million a week, then that sounds like election fraud.

The NHS will need way more than 350 million a week now that Britain has become less attractive and foreign NHS staff are getting out before all the good overseas jobs are gone.

Again? Really? Is it Groundhog Day again? And so many of the usual suspects to vote their misplaced thanks too, I see. :rotfl:

You and those clamouring to agree still ignore a few very basic facts and we can only assume it to be on purpose. Like that "Vote Leave" was not supported by our government, who are the ones now responsible for organising Brexit. Like that J Rees-Mogg and your alleged "other leave MPs" mostly had no input into what "Vote Leave" claimed on a bus or elsewhere, so if you're going to accuse people of saying something please at least attribute it to the right people, otherwise you yourself are de facto "just hypocrites looking out for their own interest." The link below might help you determine those involved in Vote Leave.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vote_Leave

Surely there is more which is current and worthy of debate regarding Brexit than rehashing a campaign now over two years old and which (frankly) has been done to death, or are some remainers really just so desperate that their anti-Brexit hysteria endures that they can find nothing more recent or worthy of their ire?