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Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5
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A report from Parliament on possible impact on food prices of a no deal.
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201719/ldselect/ldeucom/129/12902.htm
For those who do not want to read it all this is a link to the summary of conclusions
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201719/ldselect/ldeucom/129/12910.htm#_idTextAnchor080
It's a report by one of the Lord's Select Committees. On the Daily Politics yesterday, Jacob Rees Mogg spoke about an omission from that report that contradicted the Lord's conclusion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztyCRwBp8gs
View from 15 minutes into the clip.0 -
Bad news for Brexit - the Tory shires are turning red:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/09/tories-southern-red-south-england-london
Bad news for Remainers, the Tory vote generally stayed static in Remain area's but increased 10% in areas that voted Leave. In other words, the Tories gain by being a thoroughbred Brexit party.
Labour lost in previous strongholds in the Midland's and north btw.
Also this theory that younger people will remain red as they age is as old as the hills.Restless, somebody pour me a vino.0 -
Bad news for Remainers, the Tory vote generally stayed static in Remain area's but increased 10% in areas that voted Leave. In other words, the Tories gain by being a thoroughbred Brexit party.
Labour lost in previous strongholds in the Midland's and north btw.
Also this theory that younger people will remain red as they age is as old as the hills.
Yep.
Tories now polling 5 points above Labour. The UK’s Brexit majority exerting itself perhaps?“Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧0 -
Leave.EU fined £70,000 for breaking electoral law during referendum.
Oooops....
Although I'm sure the Brexiteers will try to point out that lots of parties, including UKIP and the Lib Dems, have been fined much smaller amounts for technical breaches of rules during campaigns, this appears to have gone well beyond that.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44080096The Commission has also referred Leave.EU chief executive Liz Bilney to the police, saying it had reasonable grounds to suspect she had committed criminal offences.
Bob Posner, the Commission's director of political finance and regulation, said it was "disappointing" that Leave.EU had been "unable to abide by these rules". "The level of fine we have imposed has been constrained by the cap on the Commission's fines," he added
We always knew they lied.
Now we know they cheated as well.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Leave.EU fined £70K.
RBS fine 'settles' at £3.6 BILLION over in the USA.
Hmm, I kinda know who are the bigger cheats.0 -
Leave.EU fined £70K.
RBS fine 'settles' at £3.6 BILLION over in the USA.
Hmm, I kinda know who are the bigger cheats.
When the best you can do when trying to defend your side from being convicted of cheating is to compare them to bankers, it's pretty safe to assume you have lost the moral high ground...;)
And of course...."The level of fine we have imposed has been constrained by the cap on the Commission's fines,"“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Such a sanction is hardly a deterrent.0
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Bad news for Remainers, the Tory vote generally stayed static in Remain area's but increased 10% in areas that voted Leave. In other words, the Tories gain by being a thoroughbred Brexit party.
Labour lost in previous strongholds in the Midland's and north btw.
Also this theory that younger people will remain red as they age is as old as the hills.
The Tories and New Labour mirrored the interest of the baby boomers. Baby boomers wanted free education, they got it, They wanted houses, they got them. They wanted generous welfare allowances, they got them. They wanted astronomical house price inflation they got it. They wanted a promise of unlimited free health care and generous state pensions, they got exactly that.
The point you are missing, by a country mile, is that the Tories are offering the sum total of zip to anyone who considers themselves to be young.
A pension when they retire at 80 - forget about it.
A chance of owning a house - hahaha.
Anything resembling free at the point of need healthcare - nope, not when the Americans are standing there with open cheque books
Remaining in the EU? Not when red faced Telegraph readers don't want to
Millennials won't vote Tory because the Tories are offering millennials nothing either now or in the future.0 -
No doubt some other Brexiteers will be tempted to note the government sent out a leaflet that cost £9m before the campaign spending rules kicked in.
Except of course, as it turns out, dodgy millionaire Leavers were outspending even the government...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/09/arron-banks-company-provided-12m-of-services-to-leaveeuArron Banks company provided £12m of services to Leave.EU
When asked how a company of 33 employees had generated £12m of expenses, Banks said: “The campaign sent 11m letters, millions of leaflets, Facebook advertising, rallies around the country, and so on.”“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Oooops....
Although I'm sure the Brexiteers will try to point out that lots of parties, including UKIP and the Lib Dems, have been fined much smaller amounts for technical breaches of rules during campaigns, this appears to have gone well beyond that.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44080096
We always knew they lied.
Now we know they cheated as well.
Many Leave voters genuinely thought they would be better off financially by leaving the EU. The Leave side promised £350 million pounds a week for the NHS. This was a lie. They knew it was a lie. It wasn't a small lie, it was an absolute whopper.
Now the conversation is about how manageable the level of being worse off will be for how long.
They paid an agency that specialises in election fraud to promote them.
We need another referendum.0
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