Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Enterprise_1701C

From what i can make out, it would seem there us a 17.6% tariff for oranges imported from Sudan.

https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/trade-tariff/commodities/2008305920?country=SD&day=6&month=5&year=2018#import

Herzlos

It does, I think. But it's only listing Sudan as a 3rd country rather than an all but arms country.
I don't know which takes precedence.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

Yes but no. They can export some unprocessed goods tariff free, but just one example is that roast coffee has a 7.5% tariff, and another is that there is a 16% tariff on oranges to pritect the Spanish trade.

Here's the link showing Roast Coffee with zero tariff for a huge list of poor countries including just about all of Africa.

https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/trade-tariff/commodities/0901210000?day=6&month=5&year=2018#import

And the same for Oranges at zero tariff.

https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/trade-tariff/commodities/0805102810?day=6&month=5&year=2018#import

So it appears your earlier assertion was false.

You can hardly accuse the EU of protectionism and profiting from the poorest African farmers when they unilaterally make all goods zero tariff from the 49 poorest countries in the World.

gfplux

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Here's the link showing Roast Coffee with zero tariff for a huge list of poor countries including just about all of Africa.

https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/trade-tariff/commodities/0901210000?day=6&month=5&year=2018#import

And the same for Oranges at zero tariff.

https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/trade-tariff/commodities/0805102810?day=6&month=5&year=2018#import

So it appears your earlier assertion was false.

You can hardly accuse the EU of protectionism and profiting from the poorest African farmers when they unilaterally make all goods zero tariff from the 49 poorest countries in the World.

Thanks Hamish for calling out this often repeated false fact.
The EU is not perfect, who is, but lie after lie after lie has been repeated and repeated about the EU.

You can fact check some of them here
https://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/

cogito

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

You can hardly accuse the EU of protectionism and profiting from the poorest African farmers when they unilaterally make all goods zero tariff from the 49 poorest countries in the World.

Full marks to the EU for this initiative. They support it so enthusiatically that they imported goods to the value of 36 million euros in 2016 from LDCs. 36 million euros!

Enterprise_1701C

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Here's the link showing Roast Coffee with zero tariff for a huge list of poor countries including just about all of Africa.

https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/trade-tariff/commodities/0901210000?day=6&month=5&year=2018#import

And the same for Oranges at zero tariff.

https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/trade-tariff/commodities/0805102810?day=6&month=5&year=2018#import

So it appears your earlier assertion was false.

You can hardly accuse the EU of protectionism and profiting from the poorest African farmers when they unilaterally make all goods zero tariff from the 49 poorest countries in the World.

I don't see Sudan listed?

Either way, the 49 poorest countries is hardly enough, there are a lot of poor countries that are not listed.

Herzlos

Sure, they can do more. But are they protectionist against Africa's poorest? No. You're just moving the goalposts.

cogito wrote: »

Full marks to the EU for this initiative. They support it so enthusiatically that they imported goods to the value of 36 million euros in 2016 from LDCs. 36 million euros!

How much should they be importing?

Arklight

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

And once again.....

https://infacts.org/these-5-eu-trade-myths-are-brexiter-nonsense/

And yes, it specifically includes agricultural products.

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-02-296_en.htm

He's been spouting the EU-kills-Africans rubbish all the way through this and his last account. Being set straight for the ten thousandth time isn't going to make any difference.

But that's UKIP for you. A right wing movement that is 99.999% composed of white people, that ethnic minorities are afraid of, that in its colossal arrogance tells itself that only it can save the black man.

Bit like the British Empire then.

cogito

Herzlos wrote: »

How much should they be importing?

Not for the first time, you're missing the point. Hamish and gfp were making a big thing about the EU's benevolence in not applying tariffs to LDCs when all they are doing is virtue signalling because the numbers are so small as to be meaningless. It's like a billionaire giving a quid to a Big Issue seller.

Enterprise_1701C

Herzlos wrote: »

Sure, they can do more. But are they protectionist against Africa's poorest? No. You're just moving the goalposts.

How much should they be importing?

Considering that Spain export 1.2 billion euros worth of oranges each year then that is a rather trifling amount. I can't find out in my limited time how many of those oranges go to the eu, but it really does show how much more the eu could do to help the poorer nations.

A drop in the ocean does not describe it.