Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

economic

Herzlos wrote: »

What part?

Staying in school until 16 only became compulsory in 1972 - so anyone over 60 now didn't need to stay in school to 16, whilst being considered since 1964 (so anyone under 68 was encouraged to stay in school longer).

Back then, there was still a likelyhood of getting a lifetime job locally with minimal additional training, where they were likely to stay for life. So less mobility, no gap years, working abroad, exposure to other cultures etc.

So no less smart, but likely less formal education or exposure to other cultures.

and now you have people going to universities to do pointless degrees and spoonfed leftist ideas if you do certain degrees. then they go onto jobs completely unrelated to what they studied and still think their degrees should have been for free paid for by the taxpayer.

gfplux

setmefree2 wrote: »

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4794843/brexit-talks-hit-fresh-stalemate-delayed-talks/

Meanwhile Politico say this in their daily email.

"Meanwhile in Brussels, pt II: DD’s negotiating team are today thrashing out a new timetable for further rounds of talks in the run-up to December’s EU Council. POLITICO’s Tom McTague reports Britain is again pushing for continuous talks to replace the formal, one-round-per-month set-up preferred by Brussels in order to strike a deal within the six-week window. But officials in Brussels have in turn accused the U.K. of dragging its feet, insisting time is being wasted in arguing about the format and suggesting that had both sides agreed quickly there might have been three full rounds of talks before the next summit. Bloomberg’s Tim Ross has a similar tale."

gfplux

setmefree2 wrote: »

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/872981/brexit-no-deal-customs-not-ready-border-dover

While you may enjoy focusing on how others are prepared I would consider most on this thread would be more interested in Britains preparedness.
Politico have this to say.

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"Excised by customs: HMRC officials have briefed ministers it will take five years to get Britain’s ports ready for Brexit, the Sun’s Tom Newton Dunn reports. Government sources are pushing back, insisting all key measures will be in place within 12 months."

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If 12 months is accurate there must be a huge recruitment drive underway that is top secret.

Eric_the_half_a_bee

gfplux wrote: »

HMRC officials have briefed ministers it will take five years to get Britain’s ports ready for Brexit

A symptom of all that is wrong with the British civil service. We planned and executed D-Day in 14 months, for goodness' sake.

setmefree2

Arklight wrote: »

It's official. The more well educated the voter the more pro Remain they are.

Not only that:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-remain-voters-better-educated-labour-mp-barry-sheerman-huddersfield-yougov-facts-leave-a8027121.html

Well that's lovely. I'm really looking forward to all these people who left school at 15 making a stunning success of Brexit and driving the UK to reach its full potential.

I don't think there can be any surprise that less well qualified people support Brexit - since they are the ones having their wages pushed down by mass immigration and they are the ones whose kids are being priced out of the housing market.

The real surprise is that you, as a Labour supporter, don't care about less educated people and would make a post so sneering, belittling and full of derision. If you are typical of the current crop of Labour supporters then the LP really is now the party of the Liberal elites. Except for Dennis Skinner who understands what is really going on.

As for the qualifications of those executing Brexit. May went to Oxford, Davis went to Warwick/Harvard and Fox went to Uni of Glasgow Med School. All of them are self made as none of them were brought up with a silver spoon in their mouths.

By the way, you should really learn to play the ball not the man. Or is this what Remainers have been reduced to? Hurling insults at both those who voted for Brexit and those executing the will of the people.....

Eric_the_half_a_bee

Arklight wrote: »

It's official. The more well educated the voter the more pro Remain they are.

Only if you believe that a 70 year old grandparent who left school at 16 and successfully ran their own business for 30 years is "less well educated" than a 21 year old with a third class degree in Media Studies.

gfplux

News from the Bank of England, those dumb experts.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41803604
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"The Bank of England believes that up to 75,000 jobs could be lost in financial services following Britain's departure from the European Union.
I understand senior figures at the Bank are using the number as a "reasonable scenario", particularly if there is no specific UK-EU financial services deal.
The number could change depending on the UK's post-Brexit trading relationship with the EU.
But the bank still expects substantial job losses.
Many jobs will move to the continent.
The Bank of England has asked banks and other financial institutions, such as hedge funds, to provide it with contingency plans in the event of Britain trading with the EU under World Trade Organisation rules - what some have described as a "hard Brexit"."
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This can easily be dismissed as expert opinion is involved.

Eric_the_half_a_bee

gfplux wrote: »

News from the Bank of England, those dumb experts..

This will be the same Bank of England that in May 2016 predicted that a vote for Brexit would plunge the country into an instant recession and raise unemployment?

gfplux

Eric_the_half_a_bee wrote: »

A symptom of all that is wrong with the British civil service. We planned and executed D-Day in 14 months, for goodness' sake.

That was a quite a few months ago. Perhaps things might have changed.
Actually 73 years, 4 months, 26 days ago.

Herzlos

ukcarper wrote: »

You said interacting with less of world, how do you reach that conclusion.

Someone who got a local job from aged 15 and worked there until retirement is much less likely to have had world interaction than someone who left uni aged 22, had to move for work and changed jobs regularly. People who grew up before air travel was common won't have seen as much of the world either.

economic wrote: »

and now you have people going to universities to do pointless degrees and spoonfed leftist ideas if you do certain degrees. then they go onto jobs completely unrelated to what they studied and still think their degrees should have been for free paid for by the taxpayer.

There are some pointless degrees I accept. I don't remember being spoonfed leftist ideas, so it's not a given in university. Even unrelated degrees are useful to jobs as they provide a few skills like independent work and research. People with degrees tend to generate more tax income and a well educated population is better than a poorly educated population (unless you're trying to control them), so are a net benefit and they should be taxpayer funded. The current student debt system is taxpayer funded anyway, but with loads of overheads.