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  • J,M
    J,M Posts: 16 Forumite
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    The tenant has again behaved in such a fashion as to bring two visits from our local police.
    His tenancy comes to an end at the end of August, and I will not be renewing his tenancy, he has been forewarned.
    If he should remain in occupancy, what are my options? I don't intend taking any rent for however long he stays.
    Does he become a sqatter by default.
    Can I please request that any replies be confined to my queery.
  • need_an_answer
    need_an_answer Posts: 2,812 Forumite
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    edited 10 July 2019 at 3:19PM
    no different to any other request for the tenant to leave.

    issue section21 and following the expiry of that start eviction process if the tenant has not left.
    This takes around 6-8 months if it goes all the way.

    have you issued section 21 as part of "forewarning"...perhaps you would clarify what you have sent as part of the forewarning

    Without the section21 the tenancy will roll after its end in August by default if it has previously been a statutory AST
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  • Crashy_Time
    Crashy_Time Posts: 13,386 Forumite
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    Davesnave wrote: »
    There's nothing in the OP's history to suggest they're trolling. Maybe they're naive and didn't expect the sort of replies they received? Regardless of anything else, they're not terribly well-informed about their position as a landlord.

    Judging by what I've been told in confidence by a surprising number of ladies, there's probably quite a lot in some 'ordinary' people's history that would have had them on the sex offender's register years ago, had they been reported. Most of it goes on within families, if we include close friends in that, and very little affects minors who are not already known to the perpetrators. School aged children would also rank among common offenders. However, society has regularly re-defined 'offences' in this context.

    All that won't influence the attitude of the neighbours, of course.

    Without knowing more about the tenancy, there's not much more to be said, except the point that's already been made: sex offenders have to live somewhere, so there's probably one near most of us..

    Glad someone pointed that out, the figures used to be over 90% of child sexual abuse happened within the "family unit", that includes grandparents, uncles, dad`s mate from the pub etc. Maybe the OP should politely point this out to the neighbours and tell them to phone the police if this person acts in any way that genuinely endangers children, then just stop communicating with them on the subject.
  • [Deleted User]
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    J,M wrote: »
    The tenant has again behaved in such a fashion as to bring two visits from our local police.
    His tenancy comes to an end at the end of August, and I will not be renewing his tenancy, he has been forewarned.
    If he should remain in occupancy, what are my options? I don't intend taking any rent for however long he stays.
    Does he become a sqatter by default.
    Can I please request that any replies be confined to my queery.

    He will not become a squatter just because you decide to stop accepting rent. He will remain a tenant and the tenancy does not come to an end 31st August, the fixed term might end then but if he remains in the property come 1st September he will automatically start a periodic tenancy.

    You can issue a Section 21 notice but that notice on its own will not end the tenancy. There are lots of things that can invalidate a Section 21 so you need to ensure that all your paperwork is in order before issuing it.
  • Crashy_Time
    Crashy_Time Posts: 13,386 Forumite
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    Easier just to put the rent up and let him stay?
  • duggan1
    duggan1 Posts: 508 Forumite
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    Easier just to put the rent up and let him stay?

    Might be annoying the neighbours with his wobble board.
  • need_an_answer
    need_an_answer Posts: 2,812 Forumite
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    OP heres a link to GM's sticky threads...good advice.

    I should have included it in my first post

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  • J,M wrote: »
    The tenant has again behaved in such a fashion as to bring two visits from our local police.
    His tenancy comes to an end at the end of August, and I will not be renewing his tenancy, he has been forewarned.
    If he should remain in occupancy, what are my options? I don't intend taking any rent for however long he stays.
    Does he become a sqatter by default.
    Can I please request that any replies be confined to my queery.

    Is this the same tenant from October 2017?

    As people have said issue (valid) section 21, go to court etc...

    Alternatively pay your tenant to leave, probably cheaper than potentially 6-9 months without receiving rent
  • saajan_12
    saajan_12 Posts: 5,083 Forumite
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    J,M wrote: »
    The tenant has again behaved in such a fashion as to bring two visits from our local police. - okay, great for the gossip mills. Irrelevant to the tenancy.
    His tenancy comes to an end at the end of August, - No it doesn't (unless he has served notice or the court has ruled - has that happened?) I presume you mean the Fixed term is ending. and I will not be renewing his tenancy, - the tenancy will still carry on happily as periodic. he has been forewarned. - how? I hope you're not adding to the antagonism which benefits no one. Have you served formal notice, as that is all that will begin the process of ensuring he leaves (eventually).
    If he should remain in occupancy, what are my options? - To serve S21 notice, apply to court, get a possession order and get bailiffs. All inn ~4-8 months. I don't intend taking any rent for however long he stays. - seems silly, but up to you.
    Does he become a sqatter by default. - no, he has a valid tenancy until a COURT ends it. You or your lack of renewal or your 'forewarning' do nothing.
    Can I please request that any replies be confined to my queery.

    If you want replies to focus on your query about the actual tenancy then you also need to focus on your rental business, and not about "forewarning" or worrying about how "he's behaved".

    He has a valid tenancy until he or a court ends it, so no he can't be a squatter. You need to serve valid S21 notice, apply for a court possession order, apply for bailiffs. All in, his moving out date could be anywhere between Oct2019 and Feb 2020 and thats assuming you've done everything correctly.
  • J,M
    J,M Posts: 16 Forumite
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    Thank you all for your replies.
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