landlord is selling the house

FBaby

Your argument seems to be moral, rather than legal, so it's just not something you would do. That's fine, but it's not bribery.

Of course it's moral. What a sad society we are becoming where people are prepared to only act on the basis of what they can push legally rather than by taking a good moral standing. Maybe it's time to reinstate compulsary church attendance

Honestly, as a LL, I would always consider a fair surrender where as long as I didn't lose out financially, I would not consider opportunities of making extra money out of the misfortune of my tenants. Silly of me to actually think that some tenants could actually think the same!

Crashy_Time

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/buytolet/article-4895072/Buy-let-Britain-tumbles-European-ranks.html


Landlord getting out just in time, if the buyer sticks around that is......

FBaby

Our last landlords wanted us to move out so they could move back in themselves to get their child into the good local school.

You mean during your fixed term? I don't think you'd have been unreasonable at all to refuse to it as doing so would have been within the term of your contract. That's different to being given appropriate notice to vacate at the end of the fixed term which is within the terms of the contract but then asking for money to do so because after all, the law stupidly allow tenants to stay as long as they want until the LL has paid a fortune to ask a bailiff to kick you out (very often in a very undignified way which I personally would preferred to avoid at all costs)

aneary

FBaby wrote: »

Of course it's moral. What a sad society we are becoming where people are prepared to only act on the basis of what they can push legally rather than by taking a good moral standing. Maybe it's time to reinstate compulsary church attendance

Honestly, as a LL, I would always consider a fair surrender where as long as I didn't lose out financially, I would not consider opportunities of making extra money out of the misfortune of my tenants. Silly of me to actually think that some tenants could actually think the same!

I think it's dependant on the LL my last LL was terrible and due to this I felt uncomfortable in my home. The lack of stress since I moved was noticed by others. Due to him being terrible I notified not only the mortgage company but also the company who hold a second charge on the property and the HMRC.

My new LL is brilliant there was an issue with the lock which I failed to notice but they pointed out and had fixed within days of me moving in. The first clean was not up to standard (I didn't see this it was before I moved in) so they got a second clean done. Because they are great I keep the flat spotless, and check things prior to doing them (meter changing and screwing a bookshelf to the wall) and agreeing how the property will be left when I leave, even though technically I don't have to.

Crashy_Time

aneary wrote: »

I think it's dependant on the LL my last LL was terrible and due to this I felt uncomfortable in my home. The lack of stress since I moved was noticed by others. Due to him being terrible I notified not only the mortgage company but also the company who hold a second charge on the property and the HMRC.

My new LL is brilliant there was an issue with the lock which I failed to notice but they pointed out and had fixed within days of me moving in. The first clean was not up to standard (I didn't see this it was before I moved in) so they got a second clean done. Because they are great I keep the flat spotless, and check things prior to doing them (meter changing and screwing a bookshelf to the wall) and agreeing how the property will be left when I leave, even though technically I don't have to.

Yep, the key is finding the good ones, being a proper tenant, and being prepared to move out quickly if you land a bad one.

FBaby

Indeed, if only good landlords and good tenants found each other. Instead, it seems the opposite systematically attract!

Saying that, it's not always about good vs bad but different expectations.

G_M

aneary wrote: »

Doesn't the LL have to have issued a gas safety cert before a valid section 21 can be issued?

Yes, if the tenancy was created after 2015. In this case the tenancy is 10 years old.

OP, it's very simple:

* you can be evicted by your landlord if he serves a valid S21 Notice, waits 2 months, and goes to court

* your current landlord can do this at any time

* or your current LL can sell the property without evicting you, and the new owner becomes your new landlord

* the new landlord can then evict you at any time in the same way.

Crashy_Time

FBaby wrote: »

Indeed, if only good landlords and good tenants found each other. Instead, it seems the opposite systematically attract!

Saying that, it's not always about good vs bad but different expectations.

IMO, with the "accidental landlord" becoming more common it is sometimes a case of novice landlords just not knowing what is expected (or legally required) more than them actually not caring if they treat tenants badly.

glasgowdan

This is making things so complex and stressful. If it were me I would get a new flat to rent rather than become a thorn in an emotional and difficult process.

aneary

Crashy_Time wrote: »

IMO, with the "accidental landlord" becoming more common it is sometimes a case of novice landlords just not knowing what is expected (or legally required) more than them actually not caring if they treat tenants badly.

My old LL was a accidental landlord and he was just a nasty bloke.

Example 1 - He delayed me moving by a week so he could clean the flat. It was filthy when I moved in I spent two hours cleaning before I could move anything in. His girlfriend's uniform was left in the washing machine.

Example 2 - I dropped an iron on the carpet yes my fault and I claimed off the insurance, for it. His carpet was the cheapest carpet he could get when he brought the flat (new build) he was getting a brand new better quality and underlay he argued about the colour not being the same as the bedroom carpet (there was a hallway in between)

Example 3 - Damp started to appear (not due to hanging up washing or lack of ventlation) we suspect is was due to a failing in the damp proof. He took 6 months to fix, I have asthma.

Example 4 - He tried to charge me for £180 for cleaning after I left see point 1.