removing excess phone sockets - who can do that?

wallofbeans

molerat wrote: »

No you don't need to keep it. It is a weird bodge up you have and disconnecting that second junction above the front door should cause no problems.

The only mystery is where that red cable goes. The metal box looks quite old so I imagine the cable has been there a while. Maybe it is like in my house, I have a disconnected cable inside my master socket box and a blanked box upstairs with a cable in it, original to the 1980s house. They are not connected and I can only assume that somewhere along the way the builders managed to chop it !

The only real advantage to getting a modern one is that you can have separate ADSL and phone sockets on the front if you wish so no need for the splitter hanging out or just a nice clean shiny one.

This house was built in 1873 (!) so I assume there have been a few builders through here since and lots of messing around with wiring.....

AndyPK

Not quite. You need a bit from the back bedroom master socket to go in the middle

wallofbeans

OK. So extra junction removed. Socket from back bedroom removed. And phone/internet still works!

It looks like there are just two wires that need to come from the wire coming through the wall from the front door area and into the master socket. The rest are wound around the lead. Is it really just two wires that need connecting?

The others connected to this hanging off the wall master all go to the next socket, where the phone/ internet are currently connected. So they can be removed.

Two wires. Really? That's it?

I assume I need that tool to do this or can it be done without? The master socket from back bedroom has screw on connectors for those two wires - so maybe not?

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wallofbeans wrote: »

OK. So extra junction removed. Socket from back bedroom removed. And phone/internet still works!

It looks like there are just two wires that need to come from the wire coming through the wall from the front door area and into the master socket. The rest are wound around the lead. Is it really just two wires that need connecting?

The others connected to this hanging off the wall master all go to the next socket, where the phone/ internet are currently connected. So they can be removed.

Two wires. Really? That's it?

I assume I need that tool to do this or can it be done without? The master socket from back bedroom has screw on connectors for those two wires - so maybe not?

Yep, as said earlier (and in the link I posted which shows how to rewire the whole lot) you only need to use the blue/white & white/blue wires nowadays, the rest are legacy wires no longer utilised.

I think you're perhaps getting confused a little with too much information from different directions. If you're happy enough to do it yourself (and you seem to be) you need to buy the master socket Andy linked earlier: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BT-OPENREACH-TYPE-NTE5-MASTER-PHONE-SOCKET-AND-VDSL2-ADSL-FACEPLATE-FILTER-KIT-A-/221727286543?epid=883574121&hash=item339ff9e50f:g:%20%20wOMAAOSw7n9XEVSS

This actually comes with the little tool to push in the wires so no need for anything else whatsoever.

This would mean you have the small junction box at top left of your front door with the wire going into the back of your new box replacing the one hanging off. You wouldn't need the splitter that you currently have where the phone & router plug in and you wouldn't need any external micro filter. That's as neat as you're going to get IMO.

You can rip out everything else.

wallofbeans

Colin_Maybe wrote: »

Yep, as said earlier (and in the link I posted which shows how to rewire the whole lot) you only need to use the blue/white & white/blue wires nowadays, the rest are legacy wires no longer utilised.

I think you're perhaps getting confused a little with too much information from different directions. If you're happy enough to do it yourself (and you seem to be) you need to buy the master socket Andy linked earlier: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BT-OPENREACH-TYPE-NTE5-MASTER-PHONE-SOCKET-AND-VDSL2-ADSL-FACEPLATE-FILTER-KIT-A-/221727286543?epid=883574121&hash=item339ff9e50f:g:%20%20wOMAAOSw7n9XEVSS

This actually comes with the little tool to push in the wires so no need for anything else whatsoever.

This would mean you have the small junction box at top left of your front door with the wire going into the back of your new box replacing the one hanging off. You wouldn't need the splitter that you currently have where the phone & router plug in and you wouldn't need any external micro filter. That's as neat as you're going to get IMO.

You can rip out everything else.

Thanks. I think I was getting a little confused...

I think I have it now though... And for now, I think I'll use the existing master socket from the back bedroom to replace the hanging one. See how that goes and if I want to neaten up further then buy that linked master socket later.

I'm so pleased to have a handle on this and be able to pull out so of these wires all around the walls - I'll be happy for a while just with that...

So -- these two wires -- one is blue with white bands and the other white with blue bands, and blue white goes to A and white blue to B, right?

And with this screw based master socket - I just hook those wires around the screws and tighten, like doing a plug -- and that's it?

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wallofbeans wrote: »

Thanks. I think I was getting a little confused...

I think I have it now though... And for now, I think I'll use the existing master socket from the back bedroom to replace the hanging one. See how that goes and if I want to neaten up further then buy that linked master socket later.

I'm so pleased to have a handle on this and be able to pull out so of these wires all around the walls - I'll be happy for a while just with that...

So -- these two wires -- one is blue with white bands and the other white with blue bands, and blue white goes to A and white blue to B, right?

And with this screw based master socket - I just hook those wires around the screws and tighten, like doing a plug -- and that's it?

You've got a photo here: https://imgur.com/a/MEX9S which shows how the wires are connected. There's another website that's got some useful pertinent information here: http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/socket.htm which mentions your old 'star' layout type of wiring.

wallofbeans

Colin_Maybe wrote: »

You've got a photo here: https://imgur.com/a/MEX9S which shows how the wires are connected. There's another website that's got some useful pertinent information here: http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/socket.htm which mentions your old 'star' layout type of wiring.

So the other way around!

Blue White goes to B
White Blue goes to A

wallofbeans

Socket changed. No phone signal. What have I done wrong?

AndyPK

Try swapping the wires around although I though you still got a dial tone

wallofbeans

Nothing with wires either way around. I even tried adding the wires that feed to the next socket.

Maybe the master socket I took from the back bedroom is dead?

I put back the hanging off the way socket and set up as before and it's working again. BUT plugging phone directly into hanging off wall socket gets nothing. It only works if I plug back into the next socket along.

I guess I'll order a new master socket tomorrow and see if that works.