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Warwick_Hunt

facade wrote: »

What is this thing called a "Police Station" to which you refer?

I challenge you to find one that is open round here. (If you succeed in that task, then you can find a me a "Bank" as well)

We used to have loads, and loads of Policemen (and women too) , haven't seen a Policeman out and about for years.

Where's round here?

Alter_ego

CharlieChazz wrote: »

I was pulled over today for a routine check in my van

I thought police had to have a reason to pull you over? Not just routine.

wgl2014

Alter_ego wrote: »

I thought police had to have a reason to pull you over? Not just routine.

Indeed they do, one of the reasons is that you are driving a motor vehicle on a road.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/part/VII/crossheading/powers-of-constables-and-other-authorised-persons/enacted

shaun_from_Africa

Alter_ego wrote: »

I thought police had to have a reason to pull you over? Not just routine.

No.
The police have the right to stop anyone driving a motor vehicle on a road in the UK and ask for proof of their name and address and MOT and insurance for the vehicle concerned.

onomatopoeia99

Warwick_Hunt wrote: »

It's illegal here too, he's comitted the offence of failing to produce the document on demand at the time of the stop.

To which there is a statutory defence that they were produced at a nominated police station within seven days.

HogMan

It's illegal here too, he's comitted the offence of failing to produce the document on demand at the time of the stop
Originally posted by Warwick Hunt

That is not correct.
In the UK can be asked to show your documents but if you do not have them you will be given a HORT1.
The HORT1 document (aka 7 day producer) requires you to produce your documents within 7 days at a police station of your choice. Failure to produce after that time is an offence.

Warwick_Hunt

HogMan wrote: »

That is not correct.
In the UK can be asked to show your documents but if you do not have them you will be given a HORT1.
The HORT1 document (aka 7 day producer) requires you to produce your documents within 7 days at a police station of your choice. Failure to produce after that time is an offence.

No, it's an offence to fail to produce them on demand.

Car_54

Warwick_Hunt wrote: »

No, it's an offence to fail to produce them on demand.

Yes, but as onomatopoeia99 has already pointed out there is a statutory defence if you produce them within seven days as specified in section 164(8) of the Road Traffic Act 1988.

SouthLondonUser

As others have said, can’t the police check insurance and MOT electronically? I have just done my MOT and the guy confirmed they send the details electronically; he couldn’t really say if they send it to the DVLA or the police, but they definitely send something electronically.

How about driving licences? If you don’t have yours with you, can the police access the DVLA’s database, pull out the photo on John Smith’s licence, verify it’s him, etc? Or are they not this technologically advanced?

Nodding_Donkey

If a producer was issued rather than checks being done on the computer then maybe there was an IT problem at the time.

Or you failed the attitude test.