Parking fine received

Coupon-mad

Yes, but not having planning permission for the sign/cameras does not make parking charges illegal.

Google it. This subject has been discussed to death for a couple of years with all sorts of FOI requests to councils. Nothing doing, no big deal, no silver bullet.

And I can only apeal to IAS about the decision and no new mitigating circumstances

Not sure why you are even reading their daft letter. Ignore them like everyone here is advised to do, with an IPC member firm.

Mingandmong

Hi Coupon-mad
My instance is not about cameras or sinagage

Coupon-mad

But it's about planning permission, and that gets nowhere. I don't take pm's either!

Mingandmong

So I cannot win in court if the land owner has actually breached planning regs

Coupon-mad

No, because what's that got to do with the parking firm who will allege they could put up signs anywhere and create a contract with you, and any PP failure is not theirs, nor does it negate the contract they are alleging.

However, we do win 99% of the time in well-defended court claim cases, on other grounds.

Mingandmong

So if a private land that has not got planning permission for an extra 10% of its spaces. How can this be enforced by a ppc as to which spaces that have enforcement over

Coupon-mad

Because the PPC will say that's not their problem, and the contract on signs is what's in play. I'm not saying that would not form part of a defence - sounds like it would be worth stating - but you might never even get a claim anyway.

Mingandmong

I hope that the council enforcement officer will conclude my claim

My argument would be that if I parked in a space that did not have planning permission then they acted illegally or would this confir that all. Spaces are covered by said contract whether planning consent is agread or not

Coupon-mad

Spaces are covered by said contract whether planning consent is abreast or not

Well, that's what the PPC will say when you (might) have to argue the toss with them in small claims, should they try a claim in your case. Good luck with the Council Enforcement complaint - make sure you do this by letter or email and keep that complaint exchange, as evidence about the spaces.

As I said it may be useful in defence. Not a silver bullet, just a stepping stone among several others, to win at a hearing (we've only lost one in over a year).

Mingandmong

I have made a compliaint to the local council enforcement officer
I have also raised a complint regarding the the none existent of disabled parking that they applied for in the planning permission