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  • coal9011
    coal9011 Posts: 208 Forumite
    quote by BobProperty;


    "Don't you have to specify that in the tenancy agreement. i.e. the tenancy agreement must warn the tenant that it used to be the landlord's family home so they may need it back for that purpose in the future?"


    A good urguement but I don't think that sort of info "has" to be included in the Tenancy agreement.

    You may be thinking about "in the prescribed form" which applies more to the Section 21 Notice. Many s21's that I have seen don't have "enough" information on them for the tenant and could potentaly prove invalid if challanged in court.

    The "classic" information often left off s21's is "notice can not expire before the end of the "term" of the tenancy" most important if the tenancy is for a period greater then 6 months. Most tenants just think that after 6 months their landlord can issue notice.
  • coal9011
    coal9011 Posts: 208 Forumite
    epz wrote: »
    have you thought about contacting the tenants, offering to pay a couple months rent and moving costs if they leave early.

    it will likely be a couple of months legal stuff plus you having to rent, possibly needing to get a long term lease yourself.


    Yes. Now this is what I always say that SHOULD be considered.

    It will be the "quickest" and "cheapest" solution in the long run!!!!!!!!!
  • BobProperty
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    coal9011 wrote: »
    quote by BobProperty;

    "Don't you have to specify that in the tenancy agreement. i.e. the tenancy agreement must warn the tenant that it used to be the landlord's family home so they may need it back for that purpose in the future?"

    A good urguement but I don't think that sort of info "has" to be included in the Tenancy agreement.
    I thought it had if you were to use Section 8? point ? as grounds for possession. Anyway, S21 is much more straightforward.
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  • you might want to read through this thread about the flip side of the situation... i was recently asked to leave by my landlord due to a familiy member needing to stay in the flat.

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=552192

    We stayed on good terms with the landlady (just!) so managed to sort out something that suited both parties in the end. I think that is the paramount thing here - especially as it may be that your tenant can sue for 3x their deposit!

    have you looked at renting somewhere yourself - it may be you could find somewhere available immediately and sign a short term lease giving you time to properly evict your tenant and move out from your patners sooner.
  • coal9011
    coal9011 Posts: 208 Forumite
    I thought it had if you were to use Section 8? point ? as grounds for possession. Anyway, S21 is much more straightforward.

    Sorry BobProperty ....................................... your right! :o

    Housing Act 1988 section 8 (1)(a) - 7(6)(b) ;)

    I've been having trouble with my LL and just looked in my agreement to see if anything was mentioned in my agreement about this matter .... nothing in mine.

    About Section 21. I have twice beaten my LL using one to gain possession. The first time the application was dismissed by the court. The second time - my landlord was so mad - he went for Summary Judgement and the judge dismissed that claim as well. The court ordered that he pay my legal fees for defending both applications (£2900).

    So, on rare occasions - and involving an unusual tenancy agreement - a Section 21 claim for possession CAN be defeated!
  • Guy_Montag
    Guy_Montag Posts: 2,291 Forumite
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    Yes, it seems that under Section 8, ground 1; if you give your tenant notice in writing prior to the start of the tenancy that the dwelling used to be your primary residence & you require for that again.
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  • smeef
    smeef Posts: 45 Forumite
    Talk to your tenants. We tenants are human beings. If you talk this through with them, explaining exactly what has happened, and make yourself aware of their situation as well as making them aware of your situation, this is likely to be resolved a lot more quickly than if you just think about the legalities.

    If you treat them as an inconvenience and are not sympathetic to the position you are about to put them in, that's when bad feeling will arise and things could get nasty.
  • mlz1413
    mlz1413 Posts: 3,156 Forumite
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    why is moving back in your only option?

    when you lived there you paid the mortgage, now the tenants are in they are paying rent which covers your mortgage. Surely this means you can afford to pay to rent somewhere else?
  • RabbitMad
    RabbitMad Posts: 2,069 Forumite
    smeef wrote: »
    Talk to your tenants. We tenants are human beings. If you talk this through with them, explaining exactly what has happened, and make yourself aware of their situation as well as making them aware of your situation, this is likely to be resolved a lot more quickly than if you just think about the legalities.

    If you treat them as an inconvenience and are not sympathetic to the position you are about to put them in, that's when bad feeling will arise and things could get nasty.

    I think you should talk to your tenants after you serve a section 21 that means they need to be out on newyears day. Given the timing explain that the section 21 is just the legal requirement and you'll be looking to be flexible / helpful to them and also explain your situation. Given the timing I think they'll start looking for somewhere straight away and take their option to leave on 1st dec.

    You could even offer to return the deposit early (use it to pay the deposit on their next place to make sure your not sticked up)

    Good luck
  • coal9011
    coal9011 Posts: 208 Forumite
    How about a "house share" with an off-set of rent? (for the tenant)

    You never know, "it could be the start of a beautiful friendship!"? :D
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