Landlord refusing to pay for a new fence

Guest101

I'd suggest you put up your own fence, with Landlords permission, inside the boundary.

G_M

9.99 from screwfix here + £26 here(or cheaper 2nd hand).

martindow

Dunk91 wrote: »

The fence is pretty much f*****, it wasn't even done properly, posts weren't drugged

That's good to hear - just say no!

Slinky

glasgowdan wrote: »

The land registry tells you who paid for and put the fence up??? Interesting.

Sometimes it does! Or at least A fence at some previous point in time. The house we're buying, our neighbour's property title refers to:

The Conveyance dated 20 December 1965 referred to above
contains the following provision:-
"TOGETHER with the fence erected on the side marked 'T' on the said
plan within the boundary

Guest101

Slinky wrote: »

Sometimes it does! Or at least A fence at some previous point in time. The house we're buying, our neighbour's property title refers to:

The Conveyance dated 20 December 1965 referred to above
contains the following provision:-
"TOGETHER with the fence erected on the side marked 'T' on the said
plan within the boundary

A fence that lasts 52 years? Impressive!

TBagpuss

OP, as others have said, it's unlikely that you could force anyone to repair or replace the fence, even if you establish who it belongs to, so putting it up yourself is the best option. As you mentioned that the church houses missionaries next door you could also call round ans ask whether they are willing to help - perhaps as good, christian neighbours they'd be willing to help out, or even to speak to their church about putting a fence on their side of the boundary.

seven-day-weekend

No-one is obliged to erect a fence. They can leave it open if they wish.

Land_Registry

May or may not help here but some points that refer to the general issue of boundaries from registration experience in England and Wales

There is no norm - every single boundary and every single landowner/neighbour are different when you put the two together

The land register/deeds may help. Often they won't but again there is no norm for the reason already mentioned

A 1965 Conveyance may help to understand how the responsibility was set out at that time. But it may not be legally binding now partly for the same reason already stated above. But also because with each change of ownership if the new owner did not agree to 'observe and perform the covenant'

Some titles refer to boundary agreements or determined boundaries which may help but for the reason already stated above this is not the norm. There are 24 million registered titles and there are very few agreements/determined boundaries noted, again for the reason already stated above

Modern advice now includes putting a fence up inside the boundary line - that can solve the issue but I've seen first hand how it can create another issue when you get a new neighbour who thinks that fence is the boundary line, mainly for the reason already stated above.

There is no law about having to have a fence or any other physical feature to denote the boundary. The exact legal boundary is essentially an invisible line. And fences, walls, hedges etc have been used for centuries to keep people/animals both In and Out

So the bottom line tends to be try and talk to your neighbour, landlord or whoever is affected. Share any details, registered (if any) included, and understanding. If you find 'a view' online, inc this one, that works for you all then go with it. Nobody else is likely to intervene on your behalf. And then formalise it in some way, if you all want to. If you don't then it may not bind the next neighbour/owner and you are back to the reason already stated above

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