Sick Pay 12 Month Rolling Period

Manxman_in_exile

ReadingTim wrote: »

I think you're on the right track, but wonder if the confusion arises by the use of the word "entitlement": it's not like a holiday entitlement which gets refreshed every year automatically I used the word "entitlement" but agree it may be confusing. I agree that I can't quite understand how sick pay can be refreshed on a rolling 12 months period. I don't know why but it doesn't seem "right".

Instead, I wonder if they're thinking of it as a single clock counting down at 30 days at full pay, 30 at half, then the rest at no pay (then, arguably, the sack!). Any period of sickness less than 12 months since the last means you pick up wherever you previously were on the 30 days full/30 days half scale.

The only way you could "reset" the clock is to do a full year without sickness - hence the rolling 12 month period bit. I see what you mean, but that doesn't seem right either

I think HR are going to say that sick pay does not refresh until Jan 2018 (12 months after full pay expired).


I think the OP needs to re-check the wording of their contract and/or sickness policy.

getmore4less

the last full pay was June 16 not Jan 17

Manxman_in_exile

You're right, sorry.


I give up!

cezairs

It gets worse -


I had this reply from HR -


[FONT=Times New Roman,serif][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]You have had full pay, before you went off in January and when you returned in March – and it doesn’t start again until you return to work. Occupational sick pay is accumulative over the period i.e. doesn’t start afresh each time you start a new absence.[/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman,serif][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]And any future absences will go back over the rolling year to determine future pay entitlements……[/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman,serif][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]Does this make sense now ? [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman,serif]I then asked if a year was from 4/9/16 till 4/9/17 she said yes.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,serif]Can you list the days /dates I have had that are included and I might understand it better.


In my head I think the last year is 4/9/16 to 4/9/17 and therefore I have had from 5th Jan till 1 Feb on half pay from my entitlement over the last year / 12 months ?


Her reply .....................


[FONT=Times New Roman,serif][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]I will prepare something for your Nina, because if you say you had half pay from 5[FONT=Calibri,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]th[FONT=Calibri,sans-serif] Jan till 1[FONT=Calibri,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]st[FONT=Calibri,sans-serif] Feb then you would be straight into nil pay ! [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman,serif][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]Be in touch soon for you….[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,serif][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]:shocked::shocked::shocked:[/FONT][/FONT]
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ReadingTim

Ah, I think I get it.... sounds like for every day you're sick, they'll look back 12 months at what else you've had in that time. You get 30 days at full pay, another 30 at half, and anything after that isn't paid. So you could have had 45 days off in the past year, which, in year 1 would be 30 at full pay, 15 at half, leaving you another 15 days before no pay.

In year 2, some of those fully paid days will have dropped off the clock, so you could still have had 45 days off, but comprised of (say) 15 at full pay and 30 at half. You'd then get up to 15 at full pay again, before dropping down to no pay (assuming none of the half paid days had also been excluded from the calculation.

Goodness knows how they track that, which is probably why they're finding it difficult to explain!

cezairs

Thank you all for the imput.


Turns out the confusion is due to the fact they over paid me in January.
All the communications I had didn't tie in with what I had been paid at the time.


I have emails stating my sick pay was as I have previously said.


Turns out they overpaid me and I might get even less now than originally stated.
I knew I was having both hips done and didn't expect for one of the recovery's to have 4 weeks half pay to see me through what could possible be a 12 week recovery !


Teach me not to check my wage slips and query it.