Whoe phone number is it that keeps making spam phonecalls to me?

moneyistooshorttomention

They are coming through at a rate of several a week from:

0001235943946

I've tried a couple of the "who called me?" websites and that number didnt come up.

Obviously a spam caller - as it sounds a bit far away (like it might be coming from abroad and they are never speaking in British accents).

Also it takes a while of me saying "Hello/hello/hello" after picking up the phone before a person starts talking to me (ie looks like it's a computer dialling me).

They always start by asking to speak to the householder/home-owner (ie rather than asking for my name).

I'm registered with all the "stop Spam" things I can think of - but these calls keep coming.

HogMan

Probably a made up number, block or ignore

moneyistooshorttomention

Is it possible to block an individual phone number - very easily/quickly/for free?

Ian011

It is important to remember that what is shown on a caller display unit is NOT the number of who is calling you, it is merely a "presentation number".

When a call is made from an ordinary landline or mobile, in general it is the caller's phone number that is shown at the other end. When a call is made from a callcentre, or from a VoIP connection, the caller display information can be modified.

For calls originating from an outbound callcentre you won't see the landline number the caller called from. You'll see a central number for their inbound callcentre, thus funneling all incoming calls to one place.

Scammers use the same technology, and can similarly alter the number that is displayed. However, they are doing this either to convince you they are someone they are not or to try to cover their tracks. They show an assortment of fake numbers, numbers belonging to other organisations, numbers that are local to the call recipient, numbers with valid prefixes and the correct number of digits but which are unallocated, numbers with prefixes that are unallocated, numbers with too many or not enough digits or just random strings of digits. You should therefore never trust what you see on caller display. When you receive a call from someone that you do not already know, there is a high probability the caller display information is fake.

As calls cannot be made from non-geographic numbers, whenever you see an 03, 08 or 09 number displayed, you can be sure you are looking at a "presentation number". However, be aware that Ofcom rules do not permit premium rate numbers to be shown on caller display. If the number shown is a landline or mobile number, there is no guarantee the number is genuine.

Once you understand this, you will see why blocking calls based on CLI is a completely fruitless endeavour. Scammers have learned to change the presentation number that will be displayed, and to change it frequently. This is why call-blocking schemes based on CLI simply do not work.

The only method proven to work is the approach adopted by the trueCall plug-in boxes, the BT 8500 and 8600 "Call Guardian" handsets, the BT Halo handsets and the Sky Shield system built in to the telephone network. These present a verbal challenge to unknown callers. This must be passed before the called phone rings.

Scammers rely on you believing that just because the number shown on screen is one your bank uses that it really is the bank calling this time. When scammers call using numbers that are obviously fake (such as non-valid prefix, incorrect number of digits, etc) not only are they covering their tracks, they also know that if the call is answered the person they called is likely to be quite gullible. Most people who receive a call from an obviously fake number clearly wouldn't answer it.

teddysmum

Ian011 wrote: »

It is important to remember that what is shown on a caller display unit is NOT the number of who is calling you, it is only a "presentation number".

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That's certainly true as I've had calls to our phone 'from our number' and '999'.

ianb57

That phone number is from an asian call centre they mostly pretend to be from bt or virgin making out that your router is infected or someone's ip address is showing up on the system it's a big scam. I got a call from them yesterday i normally get a call at least once a week. you might find calls starting 0003 and 0005 as well i play them along until they get fedup and put the phone down

moneyistooshorttomention

Ian011 wrote: »

It is important to remember that what is shown on a caller display unit is NOT the number of who is calling you, it is merely a "presentation number".

When a call is made from an ordinary landline or mobile, in general it is the caller's phone number that is shown at the other end. When a call is made from a callcentre, or from a VoIP connection, the caller display information can be modified.

For calls originating from an outbound callcentre you won't see the landline number the caller called from. You'll see a central number for their inbound callcentre, thus funneling all incoming calls to one place.

Scammers use the same technology, and can similarly alter the number that is displayed. However, they are doing this either to convince you they are someone they are not or to try to cover their tracks. They show an assortment of fake numbers, numbers belonging to other organisations, numbers that are local to the call recipient, numbers with valid prefixes and the correct number of digits but which are unallocated, numbers with prefixes that are unallocated, numbers with too many or not enough digits or just random strings of digits. You should therefore never trust what you see on caller display. When you receive a call from someone that you do not already know, there is a high probability the caller display information is fake.

As calls cannot be made from non-geographic numbers, whenever you see an 03, 08 or 09 number displayed, you can be sure you are looking at a "presentation number". However, be aware that Ofcom rules do not permit premium rate numbers to be shown on caller display. If the number shown is a landline or mobile number, there is no guarantee the number is genuine.

Once you understand this, you will see why blocking calls based on CLI is a completely fruitless endeavour. Scammers have learned to change the presentation number that will be displayed, and to change it frequently. This is why call-blocking schemes based on CLI simply do not work.

The only method proven to work is the approach adopted by the trueCall plug-in boxes, the BT 8500 and 8600 "Call Guardian" handsets, the BT Halo handsets and the Sky Shield system built in to the telephone network. These present a verbal challenge to unknown callers. This must be passed before the called phone rings.

Scammers rely on you believing that just because the number shown on screen is one your bank uses that it really is the bank calling this time. When scammers call using numbers that are obviously fake (such as non-valid prefix, incorrect number of digits, etc) not only are they covering their tracks, they also know that if the call is answered the person they called is likely to be quite gullible. Most people who receive a call from an obviously fake number clearly wouldn't answer it.

I hadnt realised that. Thanks for telling me.

The way I get this number up is by dialling 1471 - as I dont have caller display.

Yes...I can see it's a waste of time even thinking about what to do about that very odd phone number if it's not a real one.

moneyistooshorttomention

ianb57 wrote: »

That phone number is from an asian call centre they mostly pretend to be from bt or virgin making out that your router is infected or someone's ip address is showing up on the system it's a big scam. I got a call from them yesterday i normally get a call at least once a week. you might find calls starting 0003 and 0005 as well i play them along until they get fedup and put the phone down

That would fit with the accents of the callers.

Thanks for telling me. I'd got the idea it must be some sort of fake thing and they never get as far as coming out with their spiel - as each time I realise its' for "the householder/house owner" (which is me:rotfl:) I usually just say "No" and put the phone straight down the second they ask to speak to "the householder".

I gave an earful to the one today though - as they were the 4th one within the past week:mad: - and then slammed the phone down on them.

Hmmm....the phone I answer them on is right by my computer - and there must be some downright Heavy Metal or the like music on a YouTube video there somewhere or other:think::think::think:.

Has anyone got any good recommendations of total earblast awful music clip I can put on full blast back at the next one that phones please? - whilst I find something else to do outside the room.;)

EDIT; Think a bit of that Inuit throat-singing might do the trick....