Is this a good school based on A levels results??

parkrunner

Is there an entrance exam or a minimum qualification standard for the school? If not as already mentioned parents may be paying for their not so clever children to attend which would clearly lower the percentages.

peachyprice

ThumbRemote wrote: »

Is it definitely a private school? I thought they were inspected by ISI, not OFSTED (although I may be wrong). And I don't know if there's parity between what the two would class as outstanding.

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/ofsteds-inspections-of-non-association-independent-schools

They can be Ofsted inspected

fred246

My daughter has just got her A levels. All As off to first choice university. She went to a lovely state primary school. The whole class went onto the same large comprehensive except one girl whose mum seems obsessed with private being somehow better. My daughter then went to a fantastic state 6th form college. The girl who went private and spent over £70k on education is the only one in the class who hasn't made it into university. It's just incredible why people think that private will better. It doesn't make any sense. All league tables ever did was to help selective schools. The more selective you are the better your results are. Simple statistics.

JReacher1

fred246 wrote: »

My daughter has just got her A levels. All As off to first choice university. She went to a lovely state primary school. The whole class went onto the same large comprehensive except one girl whose mum seems obsessed with private being somehow better. My daughter then went to a fantastic state 6th form college. The girl who went private and spent over £70k on education is the only one in the class who hasn't made it into university. It's just incredible why people think that private will better. It doesn't make any sense. All league tables ever did was to help selective schools. The more selective you are the better your results are. Simple statistics.

Well done to your daughter. She is obviously very clever.

However comparing one bright state educated student against one privately educated student isn't an accurate or fair comparison between the two different systems.

If you look at oxford or Cambridge a lot more students come from private schools than state schools. This is not a coincidence. It is because private schools invest more money per pupil into their education.

fred246

My daughter spent a long time analyzing all the university courses and she visited all the universities that she was interested in going to. She wouldn't apply to Oxford or Cambridge because she thought that their courses were old fashioned and irrelevant. Private schools would probably have put more pressure on her to apply there for their own results.

JReacher1

fred246 wrote: »

My daughter spent a long time analyzing all the university courses and she visited all the universities that she was interested in going to. She wouldn't apply to Oxford or Cambridge because she thought that their courses were old fashioned and irrelevant. Private schools would probably have put more pressure on her to apply there for their own results.

Even with straight As she may not have been accepted by oxford or Cambridge. It's not easy to get into and they don't just look a grades.

I don't agree that their courses are old fashioned as they are two of the best universities in the world. If you get a degree from one of those universities then it's gets you in the door at places you wouldn't normally get a look in at.

Funnily enough I went to a state school and they put a lot of pressure on any student who had a chance of getting into oxbridge to apply as it looks great for the school.

fred246

My friend is a private dentist. I went to see him recently. His surgery was quiet and we were having a chat. "How does this compare with the NHS?" I asked. "Well it's the same treatment" he said. "I just have half the patients and charge them twice as much. Easy life". Just paying more for something doesn't make it any better.

parkrunner

JReacher1 wrote: »

Well done to your daughter. She is obviously very clever.

However comparing one bright state educated student against one privately educated student isn't an accurate or fair comparison between the two different systems.

If you look at oxford or Cambridge a lot more students come from private schools than state schools. This is not a coincidence. It is because private schools invest more money per pupil into their education.

Afraid not, times have changed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/02/02/oxford-university-bucks-national-trend-accepts-fewer-state-school/

Oxford, which has the lowest proportion of state educated students in the country - excluding small specialist colleges - has seen a drop in entrants from this background. Of its 2015/16 intake, 55.7per cent were from state schools and colleges, compared to 57.7 per cent five years ago in 2011/12.


In contrast, the proportion of state sector entrants at Cambridge University had risen from 54 per cent to about 62 per cent in a decade. It now has fewer privately educated students than universities such as Bristol, Durham and St Andrews.

JReacher1

parkrunner wrote: »

Afraid not, times have changed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/02/02/oxford-university-bucks-national-trend-accepts-fewer-state-school/

Oxford, which has the lowest proportion of state educated students in the country - excluding small specialist colleges - has seen a drop in entrants from this background. Of its 2015/16 intake, 55.7per cent were from state schools and colleges, compared to 57.7 per cent five years ago in 2011/12.


In contrast, the proportion of state sector entrants at Cambridge University had risen from 54 per cent to about 62 per cent in a decade. It now has fewer privately educated students than universities such as Bristol, Durham and St Andrews.

Ok in actual numbers state schools provide more but you have to remember that there are a lot more state educated pupils than privately educated pupils so a much greater proportion of students who are educated private go to oxbridge as opposed to state educated pupils.

fred246

If you have £32k - £34k a year you can send your child to a top boarding school. They will look after your child every minute of the day. They have a tradition of sending children to Oxbridge. A lot of parents that I mix with are both working long hours to pay for private education. While they are working their children are being looked after by all sorts of childcare. All sorts of ratios of children to adults. Normally very low pay. The schools they send the children to are local private schools which are basically the same as state schools it's just that you pay for them. I think you are better off sending them to state schools and spending more time with your own children.