Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

cogito

Rinoa wrote: »

Oh dear. Everything is not sweetness and light in the EU single market, as Belgium accuse France of undermining it.

http://www.politico.eu/article/belgium-calls-for-eu-help-against-french-gastronationalism/

I don't know what to make of that article. Belgium is complaining because French people are buying French meat?

As a consumer I want to know where my food comes from and will support local markets where I can. What's wrong with the current system is that regulations allow Polish meat to be described as a British product if it's packed in Britain. That is simply wrong.

Thrugelmir

cogito wrote: »

I don't know what to make of that article. Belgium is complaining because French people are buying French meat?

Single market is to a large degree trade and profit driven. Seems as if people themselves don't figure. That's no different to the impact of globalisation by large companies lobbying and driving the agenda.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

cogito wrote: »

I don't know what to make of that article. Belgium is complaining because French people are buying French meat?

As a consumer I want to know where my food comes from and will support local markets where I can. What's wrong with the current system is that regulations allow Polish meat to be described as a British product if it's packed in Britain. That is simply wrong.

Ah but this is another example of EU bureaucracy which so many tell us there is none of.
This is why so much of the produce in (just for example) Lidl and Aldi doesn't have to state on packaging where it is produced or the country of origin; a simple statement that it is EU-sourced is sufficient.

Which means that as a Belgian you wanted to buy Belgian milk it is almost impossible, as packaging only says along the lines of "Produce Of The E.U.".
France though now allows packaging to state the country of origin, as does Italy and Portugal which of course allows nationalities to buy produce sourced within their own countries.
Think of it as another example of nationalism which - as we know - the EU is not exactly fond of, so the argument may prove interesting.
As an EU citizen you should buy EU produce.

Thrugelmir

cogito wrote: »

The only outcome of an EU Financial Transaction Tax would be zero revenue and a massive gift to the City of London.

It could only ever work if every government in the world signed up to it. Sweden's failed experiment with it sums it up nicely.

Not if the banks are required to have operational bases in the EU. Rather than simply brass plates. The gift to the UK would be the higher cost of doing business within the EU. As the customer picks up the bill by default.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Recently released:

U.S. News Best Countries Rankings

Measuring global performance on a variety of metrics

#3 - the UK, just like last year. Despite what some will try and tell us then, globally the perception is certainly not that the UK is becoming such a bad place as some pro-remain advocates suggest.
:T

As a whole though the EU is not doing quite so well there; Germany slips from first place last year to fourth place this year and generally the others fall a place or more. France from 8th to 9th; The Netherlands from 9th to 11th etc.
Oh well.
Maybe next year.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list

mayonnaise

Economic euphoria propels Merkel towards fourth term

German consumer morale hit a 16-year high, data showed on Thursday, the latest piece of positive economic news to boost prospects for Chancellor Angela Merkel as she prepares to seek re-election in September elections.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-germany-economy-gfk-idUKKBN1AC0KH

A_Medium_Size_Jock

The dishonest Germans

This from Politico, that publication so beloved of many europhiles.

The next time a German minister lectures another member of the European Union about the need to obey the rules, the target of the criticism might be forgiven for turning the tables.
The country that loves to hector others on the evils of moral hazard, to demand strict enforcement of EU fiscal rules and to depict Southern European countries as endemically corrupt, is mired in a cesspit.

http://www.politico.eu/article/daimler-volkswagen-bmw-porsche-audi-siemens-the-dishonest-germans/

Conrad

mayonnaise wrote: »

Economic euphoria propels Merkel towards fourth term



http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-germany-economy-gfk-idUKKBN1AC0KH

And the last thing Eurozone needs is sending UK into recession destroying a prime consumer market, let alone making it harder to sell to UK

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

And the last thing Eurozone needs is sending UK into recession destroying a prime consumer market, let alone making it harder to sell to UK

Well, the last thing the EU needs is every other country wanting to have their cake and eat it. A UK recession is probably a few places down the list. But what can the EU to do about it? Capitulate entirely to the UK?

cogito

Herzlos wrote: »

But what can the EU to do about it? Capitulate entirely to the UK?

Excuse me? Capitulate to the UK. Remind me. Who is it that is demanding that the UK submits to the ECJ? Who is it who is demanding vast sums of money from the UK?

Are you totally blind to the fact that the EU is not engaged in a process of negotiation? They have come to the table with a set of position papers and their delegates, Barmier and Weyand, have no authority to stray from them.

The UK has acknowledged that there is a financial settlement to be agreed. They have moved towards the EU by suggesting an independent and impartial ombudsman to adjudicate on cases involving the rights of EU citizens in the UK.

In return, the EU threatens suspension of discussions until we give a satisfactory response to their demands.

And you are seriously suggesting that we want our cake and eat it.