Tenancy Renewal Charges

dani1989

Guest101 wrote: »

a s.21 notice does not give you two months to leave. it tells you that after two months the LL may (MAY) apply to court for a possession order, which takes 6-8 weeks to just get a date.


Assuming the s.21 notice is valid, many aren't and therefore no order is granted, you then have 4 weeks until the order runs out, and then another 4-8 weeks for bailiffs.


So yes, 6 months is probably an understatement

Thank you for explaining, I've always panicked that if I was to stay on past the 2 months that I would incur charges and when renting somewhere new would have bad references from the landlord for having to get bailiffs involved etc? So I've always felt if I was to get served a section 21 that I'd have to move before the 2 months is up.

G_M

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dani1989

G_M wrote: »

So effectively you are now being charged £120 for a renewal. Th LL/agent can ask for any amount they want.

You can either

* agree
* refuse and leave
* refuse and stay (periodic)

Your choice.

My tenancy agreement states they can only charge me £60 for a tenancy renewal though? That's why I was a bit confused about them asking me to pay the landlords £60 fee aswell as mine.

Guest101

dani1989 wrote: »

Thank you for explaining, I've always panicked that if I was to stay on past the 2 months that I would incur charges - no you wouldn't. and when renting somewhere new would have bad references from the landlord for having to get bailiffs involved etc? - possibly, but who cares, references mean so little these days. And you can just explain that the LL was trying to increase rent by £X amount and you were trying to find somewhere else. So I've always felt if I was to get served a section 21 that I'd have to move before the 2 months is up.

Unfortunately the education system in the UK does little to prepare people for the real world. It's not your fault, lots of people think the same thing.

black_wings

Dani - if I was you I wouldn't even consider paying that 60 quid - it's a cheek. Because, it is your right as a tenant to be allowed to go straight onto a periodic tenancy. I may be wrong, but if you simply ignore them then once the fixed term is over a day later you will already go into a rolling tenancy and then they can't do anything about it?

At that point, I can't see any reason for the landlord to issue a S21 notice against you. Why would he want to spend money on evicting paying tenants and then potentially have a void period.

dani1989

black_wings wrote: »

Dani - if I was you I wouldn't even consider paying that 60 quid - it's a cheek. Because, it is your right as a tenant to be allowed to go straight onto a periodic tenancy. I may be wrong, but if you simply ignore them then once the fixed term is over a day later you will already go into a rolling tenancy and then they can't do anything about it?

At that point, I can't see any reason for the landlord to issue a S21 notice against you. Why would he want to spend money on evicting paying tenants and then potentially have a void period.

Thank you, yes I think what I am going to do is just go onto a periodic month to month tenancy, thats my only choice as I am not paying the landlords costs as well as my own for a 6 month renewal, I shouldn't have to, I was willing to pay my own cost but not theirs too. As it is the fee is only for them to print off a bit of paper, its ridiculous.

black_wings

dani1989 wrote: »

Thank you, yes I think what I am going to do is just go onto a periodic month to month tenancy, thats my only choice as I am not paying the landlords costs as well as my own for a 6 month renewal, I shouldn't have to, I was willing to pay my own cost but not theirs too. As it is the fee is only for them to print off a bit of paper, its ridiculous.

This is a sensible idea

FYI I was offered a new 12 month fixed term at the end of mine a few months ago, the agents did not charge anything. So your agents are just money grabbing chancers by the sounds of it.

dani1989

black_wings wrote: »

This is a sensible idea

FYI I was offered a new 12 month fixed term at the end of mine a few months ago, the agents did not charge anything. So your agents are just money grabbing chancers by the sounds of it.

Yes they definitely are money grabbers, been an absolute nightmare the past 5 years, cannot wait to go with a different agent as soon as we can find somewhere else lol

saajan_12

dani1989 wrote: »

My tenancy agreement states they can only charge me £60 for a tenancy renewal though? That's why I was a bit confused about them asking me to pay the landlords £60 fee aswell as mine.

It's irrelevant what the fee is labelled as (landlord's £60 fee or tehant's £120 or £1000) because they don't have to give you a new contract.

Your right is to go onto a periodic contract. Beyond that you can negotiate a new contract if the LL agrees e..g
- draft a contract himself without the agent
- negotiate a fee with the agent

However if they don't agree, you're left with a rolling contract if/when you stay beyond the fixed term.

rtho782

dani1989 wrote: »

My tenancy agreement states they can only charge me £60 for a tenancy renewal though? That's why I was a bit confused about them asking me to pay the landlords £60 fee aswell as mine.

The renewal is actually a new tenancy agreement, it superceeds the old one, so the amount quoted in the old one isn't relevant.

Either way, periodic is probably better for you.