Money Moral Dilemma: Should I park outside someone else's house to avoid paying?

MichaelLib

Actually it is just anti-social behaviour.Yes its not illegal just inconsiderate. After many years of petitioning the council in Feb this year they finally brought in curfew parking (ie no parking in road 10am to 12 noon mon to fri) and hooray we've got our road back. Bit inconvenient as have to pay £50 per year to park outside own house or use rather steep drive as I do

Marvel1

MichaelLib wrote: »

Actually it is just anti-social behaviour.Yes its not illegal just inconsiderate. After many years of petitioning the council in Feb this year they finally brought in curfew parking (ie no parking in road 10am to 12 noon mon to fri) and hooray we've got our road back. Bit inconvenient as have to pay £50 per year to park outside own house or use rather steep drive as I do

No pleasing some people.

JP1978

vikingaero wrote: »

If you don't want someone parking outside then buy a house with a long drive and adequate parking. People can still park outside your house but it's less likely to affect you.

If you can't afford a house with a long drive and adequate parking then it's tough!

Very selfish - maybe those that need to park on residential streets to save money on their commute should find a different job / location?

mattyprice4004

louisewestlake wrote: »

Yeah it's great that the myself and the other residents can't park in their own street due to the commuters. I used to love having to park in another street then having to lug my kids and all my shopping home. I especially love people dumping their old cars in our street, and us having to wait up to a year for the tax to run out so the council will move it. Yes I'd rather you pay your parking fees. I'm afraid that us residents really hate people like you

Buy a house with a private driveway then.
I hated it, so had to do the same.

They're doing nothing wrong - it's just a disadvantage of either a cheaper house (no driveway) or lots of cars and not enough drive space.

oldnewhand

This is a moral dilemma. In the case of rail commuters, I really feel that with the extortionate cost of season tickets parking should be free or minimal cost. Although it's perfectly legal to park in these residential areas it would be frustrating not to be able to park close to your own home every day. We have our own driveway (sometimes blocked) but our neighbours don't, some people will car share(good idea) and leave one vehicle outside these houses for a whole week, legal but frustrating; like the business that doesn't provide parking for it's employees so they have to use the spaces outside these peoples homes. Legal but inconsiderate.

bigadaj

Depends on your definition of extortionate.

The rail system is loss making based on fares and direct revenue alone, and relies on subsidies and taxpayer money to run, like any rail system across the world.

So if extortionate is paying less than the cost of the service you're being provided with then I'd accept it is.

Simple answer is to finds job closer to home or move, just another example of the implicit subsidy for many businesses.

koolchic150

I absolutely disagree that you should park on the street if it is a street that is used for residential parking. It might save some people money to do that but if the same instance was in your own street you might feel differently.
My grandmother has this exact problem in that people park in the street in front of her house because it is near a train station, she has problems walking as does my uncle who is the main carer for her and so they usually near to park outside the house but they sometimes have real stress and worry that should they go to the shops with the car when they come back the space will be gone. They then dont know how far away they will have to park and try to carry shopping home. You don't know who uses those spaces and why they need them, for some you could be taking an important spot that helps prevent issues with the health!

In addition to this I am appalled at the person who said if they dont want people parking there they should have got houses with driveways! My grandmothers house is a council owned house and again you dont know the circumstances of the people living there! I'm not saying to utilise spaces if it doesn't look to be used by residential people, those directly outside someones house you should not take up. Its even different if for an hour for a doctors appointment near a health center but ALL DAY is too far. I'm not unreasonable but I think some more consideration should be given than an automatic yes to use the space in front of someones house esp if you dont go through the same situation. I have even had someone ask me before if they could park in front of my house as I used to live near a football stadium and I said no problem as I didnt need it that day. If directly in front of a house perhaps you could even politely ask the owner?

NBLondon

JP1978 wrote: »

I wonder if all the people answering that it is perfectly fine to park in such a way, are themselves living in a busy residential street and are so used to it,

Yes

so expect everyone else to think the same?

No
Which is why considerate is the key point. There's no excuse for parking across driveways, on verges etc. But if the only legal space available is in front of a house - then I'll take it unless I already know that would be inconsiderate. I'm not going to knock on doors and ask permission just in case. If they've put out a bin and a sign saying "Removal Van expected" - I'll respect that. Even though we don't always get the same in return.

Aylesbury_Duck

koolchic150 wrote: »

I absolutely disagree that you should park on the street if it is a street that is used for residential parking. But how would you know if it is or isn't? It might save some people money to do that but if the same instance was in your own street you might feel differently.
My grandmother has this exact problem in that people park in the street in front of her house because it is near a train station, she has problems walking as does my uncle who is the main carer for her and so they usually near to park outside the house but they sometimes have real stress and worry that should they go to the shops with the car when they come back the space will be gone. They then dont know how far away they will have to park and try to carry shopping home. You don't know who uses those spaces and why they need them, for some you could be taking an important spot that helps prevent issues with the health! Should your grandmother be speaking to the council about getting a bay marked near her house if she's a blue badge holder? It might not be possible but it's worth investigating.

In addition to this I am appalled at the person who said if they dont want people parking there they should have got houses with driveways! My grandmothers house is a council owned house and again you dont know the circumstances of the people living there! I'm not saying to utilise spaces if it doesn't look to be used by residential people, those directly outside someones house you should not take up. Its even different if for an hour for a doctors appointment near a health center but ALL DAY is too far. I'm not unreasonable but I think some more consideration should be given than an automatic yes to use the space in front of someones house esp if you dont go through the same situation. I have even had someone ask me before if they could park in front of my house as I used to live near a football stadium and I said no problem as I didnt need it that day. If directly in front of a house perhaps you could even politely ask the owner?

But why? Yes, it can be inconsiderate but as you will have read from this thread, the householder doesn't own the space outside their house, nor do they have any preferential parking rights over anyone else.

Warwick_Hunt

koolchic150 wrote: »

I absolutely disagree that you should park on the street if it is a street that is used for residential parking. It might save some people money to do that but if the same instance was in your own street you might feel differently.
My grandmother has this exact problem in that people park in the street in front of her house because it is near a train station, she has problems walking as does my uncle who is the main carer for her and so they usually near to park outside the house but they sometimes have real stress and worry that should they go to the shops with the car when they come back the space will be gone. They then dont know how far away they will have to park and try to carry shopping home. You don't know who uses those spaces and why they need them, for some you could be taking an important spot that helps prevent issues with the health!

In addition to this I am appalled at the person who said if they dont want people parking there they should have got houses with driveways! My grandmothers house is a council owned house and again you dont know the circumstances of the people living there! I'm not saying to utilise spaces if it doesn't look to be used by residential people, those directly outside someones house you should not take up. Its even different if for an hour for a doctors appointment near a health center but ALL DAY is too far. I'm not unreasonable but I think some more consideration should be given than an automatic yes to use the space in front of someones house esp if you dont go through the same situation. I have even had someone ask me before if they could park in front of my house as I used to live near a football stadium and I said no problem as I didnt need it that day. If directly in front of a house perhaps you could even politely ask the owner?

So you basically think the only one with an absolute right to park there is the occupant?