Money Moral Dilemma: Should I park outside someone else's house to avoid paying?

Mercdriver

jgriggle wrote: »

I'm quite lovely according to my friends and family.


I stand by what I said though - if you own a car but choose to live in a house which has no drive, on a street with no residents' parking scheme you rather bring these problems on yourself.


I'm not shelling out the best part of £2000 a year for the car park just to appease some total strangers who think that living in a house gives them more right to park on the road outside it than anyone else.


Anyone's free to park in the street where I live. However it doesn't bother me as I chose a house with a driveway. Private, off-street parking is one of my non-negotiables when choosing somewhere to live.

Then be good enough at what you do to specify you want your parking expenses paid by the company. You chose where to work, in the same way that people choose where to live - according to their affordability circumstances.

What's sauce for the goose...

BaldacchinoR

There is no dilemma or morals involved if its a public road. I know people don't like others parking outside their house, as many in my cul-de-sac have complained, but they all know very well its not a private road (in which case they would be within their rights) but still act as if it is. I don't; if someone parks in front of my house I know they are within their rights and I say nothing. To complain would be an attempt to deny others their rights.

jgriggle

Mercdriver wrote: »

Using your own argument, no one forced you to take a job that required you to commute and be subject to car parking charges. No one forced you to take a job that didn't pay you expenses for those parking fees either.

Stop being an arrogant ignorant muppet.

You're right, no-one forced me to take a job which would make me subject to parking charges. That's why I don't have a job which makes me subject to parking charges - there's a residential street nearby where I can park for free. I made sure of that before I accepted the job.


I'm not sure what's arrogant and ignorant about parking legally. It's no more arrogant and ignorant that choosing a house with no parking and then thinking you have more right to park on the road next to it than anyone else.

dw1

I once got a note on my windscreen from someone angry that I parked about 10 feet along the road from their driveway on an otherwise empty street - nowhere near enough to cause an obstruction, but apparently it made it difficult for them to get out (I have no idea how...)

Another time I got a note for leaving my car in a free parking space outside my OWN house for two weeks... because apparently it wasn't fair to keep a space for that long.

Some people seem to get quite possessive over the street outside their own house. If someone's parking is annoying but legal, ask the council to change the rules where you live.

Aylesbury_Duck

jgriggle wrote: »

[STRIKE]I'm quite lovely according to my friends and family.


I stand by what I said though - if you own a car but choose to live in a house which has no drive, on a street with no residents' parking scheme you rather bring these problems on yourself.


I'm not shelling out the best part of £2000 a year for the car park just to appease some total strangers who think that living in a house gives them more right to park on the road outside it than anyone else.


Anyone's free to park in the street where I live. However it doesn't bother me as I chose a house with a driveway. Private, off-street parking is one of my non-negotiables when choosing somewhere to live.[/STRIKE]

Translated that for you: I'm alright, Jack.

A large chunk of modern society summed up in three words.

jgriggle

Mercdriver wrote: »

Then be good enough at what you do to specify you want your parking expenses paid by the company. You chose where to work, in the same way that people choose where to live - according to their affordability circumstances.

What's sauce for the goose...

I don't have any parking expenses for the company to pay. I chose to work where I could park for free. The availability of free parking nearby was one of the reasons I accepted the job. Just as a driveway was one of the reasons I chose my house.

Mercdriver

jgriggle wrote: »

You're right, no-one forced me to take a job which would make me subject to parking charges. That's why I don't have a job which makes me subject to parking charges - there's a residential street nearby where I can park for free. I made sure of that before I accepted the job.


I'm not sure what's arrogant and ignorant about parking legally. It's no more arrogant and ignorant that choosing a house with no parking and then thinking you have more right to park on the road next to it than anyone else.

Have a look at your attitude. That's what arrogant and ignorant.

Your job requires you to drive to where you work. You could have argued for car parking expenses as part of your remuneration package, citing the fact that the company would be held in higher esteem by the local people if consideration was given to their needs. The fact that you couldn't do this is not the fault of the people you think aren't worthy of your consideration.

Of course the fact that they don't have the budget for a house with a drive isn't your fault, but the argument is a circular one. Do you have to consult a law book every time you make a decision? It's about consideration.

There are too many people so lazy that they haven't read the thread title. Yes it's all a bit Trinidadoneish, but it doesn't ask about the legality, but the morality.

debtfreewannabee76

I see both sides of this - I have hospital workers / visitors, and on weekends football supporters parking directly outside my house and all up the street I live on. I also drive to the local train station and park outside others houses for free.


For me, the issue is more about the way people park. I have a driveway and yet often people will park so close to the edge of it that, due to a lamppost the other side, makes it difficult to get on and off the drive. This occurs all up the street as well, which actually makes it a dangerous street because of the difficulty residents have getting off drives.


I keep this in mind when I park near the station - I will not park in a space that leaves me too close to a driveway entrance or that would block someone in. If that means driving around for longer or even paying at the station, so be it.


I just wish all would have the same level of decency and understanding and then perhaps the world would be a better place.


As an aside, I used to live in a street where there wasn't enough road space to go around for residents - no station, hospital, school or anything like that, just not enough space. I would often spend upwards of 20 minutes if I got home late at night driving around looking for a space. It felt like we were the only people who used our cars before 0700 and past 1700, and it very often felt like we were the only people who rarely got to park outside their own house. In the end it was a key factor in deciding to move.

Aylesbury_Duck

Well, well. Look what I found from another thread.

jgriggle wrote: »

There is no such thing as free. Somebody, somewhere has to pay.

Isn't that the truth.

Aylesbury_Duck

debtfreewannabee76 wrote: »

I see both sides of this - I have hospital workers / visitors, and on weekends football supporters parking directly outside my house and all up the street I live on. I also drive to the local train station and park outside others houses for free.

There's scope for an exchange programme there! Some entrepreneur will develop an app for it I expect.