Question on bus lanes and white lines

Can I enter into a bus lane crossing a solid white line?

Let me clarify: let’s say there is a bus lane starting ahead, and that I can enter it, e.g. because I am on a motorcycle and the bus lane is open to motorcycles, or because a sign indicates we are outside the hours of operation (or whatever the technical term is) of the bus lane (e.g. some are only active during rush hour).

A common scenario is that I might not want to enter a bus lane straight away because a bus is waiting for passengers to get on and off. I stay in the non-bus lane, after a few metres the non-bus lane is jammed, the bus lane isn’t, so I’d like to go there, but the white line is now solid. What can/can’t I do?
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  • System
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    Do you have a driving license? Given the long list of seriously basic questions you are asking that you seemingly don't have a clue about I suggest that if you have a license you go take some lessons again.
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  • neilmcl
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    Can I enter into a bus lane crossing a solid white line?
    If you're outside any restriction then yes.
  • Tarambor wrote: »
    Do you have a driving license?
    No - I have been riding motorcycles for 20 years with no licence. I am on the Met's most wanted list. Don't tell them you spotted me on this forum!
    Tarambor wrote: »
    Given the long list of seriously basic questions
    Such as?
    Whether jaywalking is ever a crime in England was about case law.
    Are you referring to my one (1) question on what on Earth those green strips were and how a cyclist could mistake them for a cycle lane? Oh, I see, green strips painted on the road must now be the first thing they teach you at driving school. Not in my day. Sorry. My bad.
    Tarambor wrote: »
    you are asking that you seemingly don't have a clue about I suggest that if you have a license you go take some lessons again.
    Thanks. Very insightful. I genuinely don't know what I'd do without you.
  • neilmcl wrote: »
    If you're outside any restriction then yes.
    Thanks. Is this explicitly anywhere in the highway code? I couldn't find in this section: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/general-rules-techniques-and-advice-for-all-drivers-and-riders-103-to-158#rule131
    Rule 141 mentions bus lanes but doesn't answer my question.
  • Tarambor wrote: »
    Do you have a driving license? Given the long list of seriously basic questions you are asking that you seemingly don't have a clue about I suggest that if you have a license you go take some lessons again.

    It is all a bit darkmattery. Many posting style similarities too but I'm not yet totally convinced.
  • tacpot12
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    The solid white line that marks the bus lane is twice as wide as the solid white lines of the type that must not be crossed; so it would appear to be a different road marking.
    The comments I post are my personal opinion. While I try to check everything is correct before posting, I can and do make mistakes, so always try to check official information sources before relying on my posts.
  • sillygoose
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    I regularly cross the lines.

    I usually get dirty looks from other drivers as I have worked out that 90% of the population don't know that bus lanes only operate as such during the times shown on the plate at the beginning, the rest of the time being just lanes for all to use - I get looks like I am trying to jump other cars illegally. frustrating.
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  • Car_54
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    Thanks. Is this explicitly anywhere in the highway code? I couldn't find in this section: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/general-rules-techniques-and-advice-for-all-drivers-and-riders-103-to-158#rule131
    Rule 141 mentions bus lanes but doesn't answer my question.

    Which rule do you think you would be breaking by crossing a sold white line?
  • peter_the_piper
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    I did not think motorbikes were allowed in all bus lanes.
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
  • NBLondon
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    I did not think motorbikes were allowed in all bus lanes.
    I gather (from my biking brother-in-law) that it varies around the country.

    There's one near me that operates in rush hours - and as sillygoose says - the vast majority of drivers either don't know this/haven't looked for the signs. Which means that it achieves it's purpose part of the time (allowing buses to flow freely) and reduces traffic flow unnecessarily at other times. I do use it - but with caution since you can find yourself passing on the left or with drivers turning left across your path without looking or signalling.
    I need to think of something new here...
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