All in one PC

esuhl

thescouselander wrote: »

I don't agree with that but in any case a cap failure is no reason to scrap a logic board as they're usually easy to replace.

Your average user won't know how to do that, and will probably have a repair company telling them to replace the board at an uneconomic cost due to scarcity.

Fixing a standard PC will (nearly) always be easier and cheaper.

thescouselander wrote: »

At the end of the day there's not much difference between an AIO PC and a Smart TV or a Smart phone but no one gets excited about these devices not being maintainable. In fact a £500 PC is a good bit cheaper than a TV or top end Smart phone and can almost be viewed as a disposable device.

On the contrary -- people are getting quite miffed when features stop being supported on their smart TVs. Likewise, there are open source firmware "ROMs" that have been produced in response to the lack of maintainability of smartphones.

However, with both TVs and smartphones, the form-factor is an inherent part of their design. Not so with computers.

thescouselander

esuhl wrote: »

Your average user won't know how to do that, and will probably have a repair company telling them to replace the board at an uneconomic cost due to scarcity.

Fixing a standard PC will (nearly) always be easier and cheaper.

Of course the average consumer won't be able to change a cap but they they wont be changing a motherboard either. Component level repair services are very common now laptops are so popular and the costs are usually very reasonable.

esuhl wrote: »

On the contrary -- people are getting quite miffed when features stop being supported on their smart TVs. Likewise, there are open source firmware "ROMs" that have been produced in response to the lack of maintainability of smartphones.

However, with both TVs and smartphones, the form-factor is an inherent part of their design. Not so with computers.

You're talking about software issues there - AIOs run Windows rather than Android or some weird TV OS so there wont be any issue there. Granted with a tower you can change a few bits and pieces to get a bit more use but I'd expect any computer to be supportable for around 5 years without any upgrades and by that time it's probably sensible to be looking at a new machine anyway.

fred246

Four years ago my dad wanted an all in one PC. Instead I built him a mini ITX system into an Antec VESA case which hangs on the back of the monitor. He didn't need much power so I made a fanless system. Lovely big monitor with Microsoft arc keyboard and mouse. My daughter now owns the system and wants more power. A quick change of motherboard and processor and it'll be great for her for a few years. Two years ago her cousin bought an all in one from PC world. I used it once. It had a very noisy fan pumping out massive amounts of heat. Last time I went to their house it was outside next to the bin.

esuhl

fred246 wrote: »

Two years ago her cousin bought an all in one from PC world. I used it once. It had a very noisy fan pumping out massive amounts of heat. Last time I went to their house it was outside next to the bin.

That is the main feature of all-in-one PCs. They're really easy to carry to the bin. No bundles of cables and multiple parts!

thescouselander

fred246 wrote: »

Four years ago my dad wanted an all in one PC. Instead I built him a mini ITX system into an Antec VESA case which hangs on the back of the monitor. He didn't need much power so I made a fanless system. Lovely big monitor with Microsoft arc keyboard and mouse. My daughter now owns the system and wants more power. A quick change of motherboard and processor and it'll be great for her for a few years. Two years ago her cousin bought an all in one from PC world. I used it once. It had a very noisy fan pumping out massive amounts of heat. Last time I went to their house it was outside next to the bin.

Well if you like anecdotes I'm typing this on a 5 year old Macbook. Also my dad has an old Dell laptop from nearly 10 years ago which he still uses. Add to that he still has the laptop he bought before that from 2002 and it still works. Nowt wrong with all in one (including laptop) computers if you ask me.

Cisco001

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/acer-c22-760-21-5-all-in-one-pc-silver-10164168-pdt.html

However, personally would opt for laptop + monitor for its flexibility.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/AOC-I2276VWM-Widescreen-Multimedia-Monitor/dp/B00JLAX5O8/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1503593945&sr=1-1&keywords=ips+monitor

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-MK270-Wireless-Keyboard-Windows/dp/B00CL6353A/ref=dp_ob_title_ce