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Parking Tickets clarification, I have read the newbie form

360ollie
360ollie Posts: 49 Forumite
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edited 12 August 2017 at 5:29PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Good evening everyone,

I have read the Newbie thread, but before taking any steps (step 1 (the appeal- BPA registered) and step 4 (regarding solicitors and formal demands- 'Notice of Impending legal action')

Firstly I want to say thank you for taking the time to read this, just a heads up it may be a long read.

So basically the issue I have is that I have Parking charge notices from 'Total Parking Solutions' (TPS).
The question I'm putting forward is that 2/3 or the charges provide photo's however they are close ups of the registration/ number plates and the actual ticket on the windscreen.
How could they provide evidence that it was on their property if all you can see from the photos is the vehicle? -
So the question is could I provide a wider angled photo of the car parked at another car park which is unrelated to the company and provide that as evidence? I mean if there is no evidence of the surroundings which would suggest that it was on their property then what grounds do they have?

The last Parking Notice is a bit different, basically its an educational organisation that employs TPS, to enter the ground you must go through a barrier which is operated by (presumed an employee of the company/ campus security). I needed to move my belongings out of campus and told the barrier operator that I wasn't going to be long (I had two witnesses in my car (helpers to move out)). On several occasions before they had given me a temporary notice to display in my car which entitles me to park for one hour. This time he didn't and he continued to let me through knowing I was moving out.

Upon parking I saw 2 parking enforcers out doing their rounds, before parking I spoke to one of them, I asked "will you book me if I park here, I just need to load my car up" in which his reply was "No, but you should of been given a temporary parking notice though" I replied I hadn't and he went on to say some defamatory language towards the barrier operator/ college.

He said he wouldn't book me if I wasn't long, I drove round to find a space which resulted in me parking behind the campus (still on their land) I went to pack and on return found that I had been issued a parking charge notice (presumed by the other warden on patrol).

So my question to you for this parking fine is, because I had verbal consent from a warden himself and the barrier operator does that alter the contract terms for the parking clause? Surely if I was told I could park there and provide to witness statements then that would make this charge voidable?

I have recently recieved 'Notice of Impending legal action' from 'I.E Legal Solicitors'
Saying that I can still dispute (presumed to be limited to the 15th august 2017- which is the time they have given me to pay £110, from a £60 parking fine).

Should I use step 1 to appeal to the solicitor firm (use the appeal provided in the newbie thread, or actually give my own account of what happened) or continue straight to step 4? And provide a larger photo as evidence to show that the surroundings were not of campus but indeed another car park or housing estate etc.. I want to stop it before It reaches the stage where I have to draft up a defence.

Many thanks for your help and sorry for the long read! :beer:
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  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    If you still have time to appeal using step 1 then do so,!!
  • 360ollie
    360ollie Posts: 49 Forumite
    Third Anniversary 10 Posts
    Of my own account? Or using the template provided, what about the photos which only show the plates and parking ticket?

    Cheers
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    edited 12 August 2017 at 5:37PM
    The whole idea of the initial appeal is to get a popla code.

    The blue type appeal in the newbies FAQ thread is designed to get one

    If you are saying the photos are doctored then save all that for later

    Though you mentioned appealing to the solicitor?? Are you too late for appeals??
  • 360ollie
    360ollie Posts: 49 Forumite
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    I.E Legal Solicitors sent a formal demand (Notice of impending legal action) but it has also given me the option to still dispute within the reply. I will just send them the blue template and wait for their response
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    It looks far beyond the time limits for appeals. When were the pcns issued?

    Is this a debt collecting letter or a proper letter before court action?
  • 360ollie
    360ollie Posts: 49 Forumite
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    edited 12 August 2017 at 6:00PM
    I will upload a photo (with any details edited out) so it will be easier for me to explain as I'm not quite sure
  • Fruitcake
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    You should edit your post to remove information about who parked. Only ever refer to The Driver and The Keeper, who are two different people. ;)
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  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Surely you know when the pcns were originally issued??
  • 360ollie
    360ollie Posts: 49 Forumite
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    Yes these were issued on the 10th, 12th and 31st of may but the notice from IE Solicitors have given me another's chance to appeal
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    edited 12 August 2017 at 6:06PM
    Ok. Then you are too late for appeals, assuming you haven't already done so.

    So forget about using the newbies thread appeal to get a popla code.

    The letter sounds like a clumsy debt collector attempt rather than a letter before court action!
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