Speeding - 14 day rule?

MikeClaude

I've just received a Notice of Intended Prosecution from Staffordshire Safer Roads Partnership for a speeding offence that occurred on 18th May 2017 - almost 3 months ago. However the alleged offence occurred while I was driving a hire car for work, I am no longer working for that employer and don't know which hire car company was used as it was hired by the firm's HR dept. I know that NIPs have to be served to the registered keeper within 14 days. If I contact Staffs Safer Roads Partnership on the Customer Service number given on the NIP, are they under any obligation to tell me the date that the NIP was originally served to the registered keeper? Thanks

neilmcl

They're under no obligation to tell you. If you want them to prove that the NIP was issued correctly then you'll need to go to court for that. Are you disputing that you were the driver at the time?

Car_54

neilmcl wrote: »

They're under no obligation to tell you. If you want them to prove that the NIP was issued correctly then you'll need to go to court for that. Are you disputing that you were the driver at the time?

If it goes to court they will undoubtedly be able to prove that it was sent within time: the onus will then be on you to prove it didn't arrive.

Best to respond ASAP. If you meet the criteria for a speeding awareness course then it would be a shame to miss the cut-off date for that (about 4 months AFAIK).

soolin

Only the first NIP needs to arrive within 14 days and it is very rare for the authorities to get it wrong.

If you have any proof that the first NIP was late then try asking for advice over on http://www.pepipoo.com/FAQ.htm

would be a good idea. Warning though, they never approve of 'fishing' expeditions , and don't try and join up with a Hotmail account.

Robisere

"..don't try and join up with a Hotmail account. "

Why is that please, soolin?

MikeClaude

Yes, as I said in my original post, the first NIP has to arrive within 14 days for it to be enforceable and contrary to what's written by one poster above that is a written rule. I'm not disputing I was the driver and there's nothing wrong with asking questions on this or any other forum that the correct procedure has been followed. Likewise using a hotmail account is not illegal! (LOL) What I'm doing is not a "fishing expedition" it's making sure that the NIP has been issued correctly.

agrinnall

MikeClaude wrote: »

...there's nothing wrong with ... using a hotmail account! I

Yes, there is, otherwise you wouldn't have been warned about it, so don't get on your high horse! If you read soolin's post properly rather than throwing your toys out of the pram you'll see that the warning is against using a hotmail account to sign up to pepipoo. But as you seem to know best feel free to go ahead and do whatever you like.

MikeClaude

They're under no obligation to tell you.

Thank you, that's all I wanted to know. The rest of the "advice" on here is largely superfluous and some is simply incorrect.

photome

MikeClaude wrote: »

They're under no obligation to tell you.

Thank you, that's all I wanted to know. The rest of the "advice" on here is largely superfluous and some is simply incorrect.

If you know so much , why ask.

How do you know " they are under no obligation to tell you". Isn't iincorrect

MikeClaude

There isn't any written rule for a time limit, but what I will say is phoning them with an indication you are looking for a way out may see it going straight to postal charge.

This post is wrong in every respect. There certainly is a written rule. The NIP must be issued within 14 days. I'm not "looking for a way out" as you put it, I'm making sure that the NIP was correctly issued as is my statutory right. Lastly phoning them does not infringe ion my statutory right to reply to them within 28 days and accept the £100 fine and 3 points.

MikeClaude

If you know so much , why ask.

How do you know " they are under no obligation to tell you". Isn't iincorrect


I don't know if they are obliged to tell me or not, which is why I'm asking!