Ncp anpr

Umkomaas

I really do despair at some of these. I'm sure it's getting much worse.

mucker2308

thank you so much! I have now foudn this, thanks again

greg2424

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Look what I just added to Moochover's thread! The same thing I told you. Moochover hadn't quoted the entire section from his/her NTK, so at first I thought the wording was compliant, but NCP ones say too much underneath that!

I have also amended the link I provided earlier in my reply to you above, which wasn't working. It is now working as a link, and shows you what to state about an NCP NTK, assuming yours does have the flaw in the wording.

Yes it does, it's just saying they haven't shown who was driving. You might need to tweak the words but generally people use that template all the time, right under their point about NTKs not being compliant/no keeper liability.

Thanks again!! For clarity, I have linked the actual letter in the link below (hopefully it works) only showing the relevant passage of text. From what I can tell, the wording in my letter does not invite the argument that the wording is not compliant or the NKL template text shown here:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=71287643&postcount=2345

If I am reading the thread correctly, it seems that this is only for Window tickets, and in the case of NTK's it only applies if the letter was worded in a certain way, or not. My letter below doesn't seem to have the required characteristics to argue these points.....?

Link to my letter from NCP:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8CBpg0LyukbTmI2aTJ1WkhrR1k

greg2424

Hi there, I only have until Friday to get my stuff together, so any further feedback on the link below would be much appreciated.

Do I need to advise NCP that I'm going to POPLA? I'm not sure whether they need to be informed so they know an appeal is in the pipeline

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8CBpg0LyukbQllkXzBLcG00dkU

Umkomaas

Do I need to advise NCP that I'm going to POPLA? I'm not sure whether they need to be informed so they know an appeal is in the pipeline

Nope, they'll get a copy sent to them by POPLA.

Coupon-mad

That NCP letter doesn't contain the same flaw, which is annoying. Maybe they've been reading the forums and benefitting from our advice on what constitutes a valid NTK.

greg2424

Coupon-mad wrote: »

That NCP letter doesn't contain the same flaw, which is annoying. Maybe they've been reading the forums and benefitting from our advice on what constitutes a valid NTK.

Yep, very much so..... So I opted to leave the parts you mentioned out based on the fact that the letter is worded the way it is..... Assuming it looks good enough, I will send today or tomorrow. Any issues with my poorly drawn map and small pictures? Should I note at the bottom that better copies are available on request?

Anything else missing?

Umkomaas

Any issues with my poorly drawn map and small pictures? Should I note at the bottom that better copies are available on request?

POPLA won't come back and request anything. What you submit as evidence in your appeal is it; no second go. So if you do have a better map that makes your route and camera angles clearer, then send that in.

Just going back to your appeal point that ANPR cameras weren't obvious, your bottom left-hand photo clearly shows a camera high up on a pole with anti-vandal spikes. It may or may not have been an ANPR camera, but leaving that photo in does have the potential to water down your assertion. I'd leave it out.

greg2424

Umkomaas wrote: »

POPLA won't come back and request anything. What you submit as evidence in your appeal is it; no second go. So if you do have a better map that makes your route and camera angles clearer, then send that in.

Just going back to your appeal point that ANPR cameras weren't obvious, your bottom left-hand photo clearly shows a camera high up on a pole with anti-vandal spikes. It may or may not have been an ANPR camera, but leaving that photo in does have the potential to water down your assertion. I'd leave it out.

Good spot!! OK, I made the map better and removed the picture.....

Last version before sending....

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8CBpg0LyukbUHRiNHk5R0VMekE

greg2424

One (hopefully) last question RE the POPLA appeal, I do not have to fill anything out in the comments section other than the fact that I'm attaching the document, is this correct?