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  • silvercar
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    I sometimes write on the back of an envelope "thurs 2nd" or similar. today I received a message on the app that someone had reported that I was doing this and asking me not to do so in case it identified the post as being from a survey.

    I often have birthday cards ready to post and write the posting date on the back, so how could this indicate a survey?
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  • custardy
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    silvercar wrote: »
    I sometimes write on the back of an envelope "thurs 2nd" or similar. today I received a message on the app that someone had reported that I was doing this and asking me not to do so in case it identified the post as being from a survey.

    I often have birthday cards ready to post and write the posting date on the back, so how could this indicate a survey?

    It doesnt have to.
    It only has to indicate a potential panelist.
  • need_an_answer
    need_an_answer Posts: 2,812 Forumite
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    edited 8 October 2019 at 8:31AM
    silvercar wrote: »
    I sometimes write on the back of an envelope "thurs 2nd" or similar. today I received a message on the app that someone had reported that I was doing this and asking me not to do so in case it identified the post as being from a survey.

    I often have birthday cards ready to post and write the posting date on the back, so how could this indicate a survey?

    The best thing to do going forward is to either write in pencil and rub it out before posting or use a small piece of post it note which you can discard.

    The problem everyone has with "writing" on the envelopes is that it doesn't identify the sender its the receiver who gets removed from the panel.

    That receiver may not have ever done anything to identify themselves or others but because someone chose to write on an item delivered to them they are the ones penalised.

    Good on that person who took the time to contact the panel to report what they received...and thank you to the panel for not just blanket banning someone who feels able to report it!
    Historically if someone spoke up about receiving a "written " on envelope or packet the panel have usually just removed them from the panel without contacting the sender.They have always considered it a potential way that their panelists could be identified by postal workers(rightly or wrongly)

    Please think of a way that suits you better than to potentially identify your fellow panellists
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  • Primrose
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    I use the mini "Post It" notes with the posting date written on them to attach to posting items. I realise when you're busy it,s easy to lose track without some written indication.

    As has been said, its the recipient who Inadvertently "gives the game away" that they're part of a monitoring panel, rather than the sender if the postman sees dates written on the envelope, especially on the front.

    I doubt postmen would report the issue though. I imagine they would just try and deliver mail to that specifically household more carefully and ensure that it's never misdelivered.

    I suspect it,s new panellists who are mostly likely to do this as they get used to the system.
  • silvercar
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    Primrose wrote: »
    I use the mini "Post It" notes with the posting date written on them to attach to posting items. I realise when you're busy it,s easy to lose track without some written indication.

    As has been said, its the recipient who Inadvertently "gives the game away" that they're part of a monitoring panel, rather than the sender if the postman sees dates written on the envelope, especially on the front.

    I doubt postmen would report the issue though. I imagine they would just try and deliver mail to that specifically household more carefully and ensure that it's never misdelivered.

    I suspect it,s new panellists who are mostly likely to do this as they get used to the system.

    Guilty as charged, and I will now change my ways.

    I just don't understand how marking the back of an envelope can give the game away. Does that mean any recipient of birthdays cards from is seen as a potential panelist?
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  • libra10
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    I never mark the envelopes, just keep each envelope in order underneath the posting schedule then post on correct date.
  • need_an_answer
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    edited 8 October 2019 at 10:20AM
    silvercar wrote: »
    Guilty as charged, and I will now change my ways.

    I just don't understand how marking the back of an envelope can give the game away. Does that mean any recipient of birthdays cards from is seen as a potential panelist?

    unfortunately its a way that the panel organisers have decided could identify their recipient panelists...that doesn't mean that you cant carry on marking birthday cards or whatever you choose,its just a pointer that this particular panel has chosen to use.

    many things in life come with obscure rules,I'm sure MSE have a few...sometimes we arnt meant to understand,just comply or face the consequences
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  • joeyjimbles
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    This obviously doesn't work with cubes but I have used some of the white envelopes and mark them up Mon-Sat and then put the appropriate letter in the appropriate envelope. Means that I can just check ahead the next day or so without marking the envelopes themselves.
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  • ciderboy2009
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    I don't seal the envelopes until I take them out to post and write the posting info in pencil where it will be covered when sealed.
  • Februarycat
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    wideband wrote: »
    Not so quick on 2nd order - 2 weeks and waiting....



    Same here 2 weeks and no gift card yet.
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