Neighbour Dispute

dippynina

Are you sure there's no public right of way to the canal? [/QUOTE]

Hahaha, I'm beginning to wonder! *checks title deeds with magnifying glass*

PasturesNew

dippynina wrote: »

Thanks, so can I confirm you go through your neighbours garden when you do this?

If I go out the front I go through three gardens...

I checked the deeds when I bought so I knew what I was buying, who owned what, where the freehold land was, where the boundaries were and where all the individual land divisions were (of which there were 12). Of all the plots here I'd only have considered buying this one due to the land divisions/rights of way and boundaries that exist. The others are so problematical! Mine is clear and defendable.

When you buy a house it's important to understand and know what is yours, what belongs to other people - what you can/can't do and who has any rights and what rights to what. Else, somebody will make it up and then people get all annoyed

Speaking to a neighbour the other day they had no idea a chunk of land they'd like is actually already theirs ... and all their dreams of what they could do with it if only they owned it ... can all be achieved. They've owned it 8 years.

There's also a new neighbour who has been denied his rights by a row of neighbours .... I'll tip him off once I get chatting to him and point out his rights... he's currently massively inconvenienced and probably has no idea he has a right to clear passage over a blocked space.

melanzana

OK I need you to draw the layout for me.

Your description sounds totally unreal. Do you have the same access rights all around their house also?

I am so nosey now, I need to see the description!

I know it is a pain for you OP, but it just sounds, well I dunno.... weird!

PasturesNew

Also with my house I cross six separate Rights of Ways to reach my parking. I know whose and could draw them on the ground in chalk if I had to.... I bet most neighbours have absolutely no idea whatsoever that they drive over any/multiple Rights of Way, but just assume "it's the road".

dippynina

melanzana wrote: »

OK I need you to draw the layout for me.

Your description sounds totally unreal. Do you have the same access rights all around their house also?

I am so nosey now, I need to see the description!

I know it is a pain for you OP, but it just sounds, well I dunno.... weird!

we have no access as don't need it tbh. The only way they can get access to their back garden (without using the front door and going through their house) is to go through our garden. Love to draw you a diagram but wouldn't know where to begin. Besides my head is pickled with all these comments!

forgotmyname

martinthebandit wrote: »

Back in the day when I was a lot younger than I am now I cannot recall anyone who ever used a front door.

Well except for the dead, coffins always went in and out of the front door IIRC.

I was thinking the same, an older person brought up that only posh visitors used the front door, all family and friends and traders used the back door.

Posh visitors shown directly from the front door to the mostly unused front room.

Stop visitors to the canal, you fitted the gate but leave it unlocked. That will stop some. Then as mention, block the exit to the canal.

Assuming thats not a right of way also, where you may get letters to take the gate down or find someones taken it down for you one day.

unforeseen

After walking down the path at the side of your house, how do they then reach the canal? Does the far end of your garden back on to the canal and no fence present?

Simple answer is a sign at the entrance to your property stating 'No Access to Canal' assuming there is no ROW across your land to the canal

moneyistooshorttomention

unforeseen wrote: »

Download the deeds for her house and find out the fact wording of her rights.

You will probably find the she and everybody else is quite within their rights to use it as they do. However by putting a locked gate on the ROW you are substantially interfering with their rights and need to leave it unlocked.

Not "leave it unlocked" - but give them a key to it. That would at least stop other people using it (as they wouldnt have a key). That's my understanding of the law - ie one is allowed to put a lockable gate up and keep it locked in these cases - but have to give a key to the person concerned.

It might help deter them a bit if they have to unlock it every time they use it too.

Hope you get this resolved. I would be puzzled as to why someone was treating their back door as a front door and using that as the entrance like that and upset about the intrusion on my privacy.

RADDERS

My niece had the same problem with her neighbour, when she wanted to build a wall round with a gate the neighbour complained. When she went to see a solicitor her deeds said the access was for putting out the bins and workmen. So the solicitor explained that as long as she provided the neighbour with a key she was free to build the wall with the lockable gate as she was not denying the access allowed in the deeds.

Davesnave

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Not "leave it unlocked" - but give them a key to it.

That's close to a legal grey area and best achieved with the assent of the party it impacts upon.

So long as it's not a landlord-type, non-copyable lock & key, it would 'probably' not count as a substantial interference with the right to pass and repass.

However, who's to say a schoolboy prankster wouldn't come along and fill the thing with Araldite in the open position? Tricky one, that!