Motorcycle their evidence shows a PCN mine doesn't.

Alexp01

Hi folks.
Recently been ticketed by Excel after parking my motorcycle in Newcastle under Lyme. Was told to park there by a police officer due to a string of thefts in the area. Was not obstructing anything at all. Anyway, I returned back to my bike to nothing, and thought nothing of it until two weeks later the notice came through the post. However viewing their photographs theirs shows a pcn notice attached to my bike whereas it wasn't there when I can e back to it, or is it in the photographs I took of the bike when I returned to it. I appealed on this basis, but it got rejected, citing they were happy it was correctly issued. Should I just stump up the £60? They say I can appeal to the IAS, but from what I read that's a garunteed loss.
Alex

Fruitcake

You have been scammed by scammers. This is called ghost ticketing and seems to happen far to often, but unless you catch someone in the act of ticketing, photographing, and removing the ticket, there is nothing you can do about it.
Of course you shouldn't pay. Unfortunately you have made a few schoolboy errors by giving away the driver's identity, unless you appealed as keeper, and appealed using mitigating circumstances instead of legal points.

There is nothing you can do now except ignore anything and everything you get for the next six years, except real court papers.

I don't suppose you took the name or number of the police officer did you? You could go to the local police station and see if you can get anything in writing about the parking policy you followed.
The only other thing you can do is to take photos of signage in case there is anything you could use should this get to court.

z1a

"There is nothing you can do now except ignore anything and everything you get for the next six years, except real court papers."

Isn't that bad advice now?

Fruitcake

z1a wrote: »

"There is nothing you can do now except ignore anything and everything you get for the next six years, except real court papers."

Isn't that bad advice now?

No, I don't believe it is. It is the advice from the NEWBIES thread written by a very well respected forum member who has far more experience than I do on this subject.

Perhaps you missed the bit in the NEWBIES that tells you a 2nd stage appeal to the IAS is useless and can in fact be counter productive?

Johno100

Alexp01 wrote: »

Hi folks.
Recently been ticketed by Excel after parking my motorcycle in Newcastle under Lyme. Was told to park there by a police officer due to a string of thefts in the area. Was not obstructing anything at all. Anyway, I returned back to my bike to nothing, and thought nothing of it until two weeks later the notice came through the post. However viewing their photographs theirs shows a pcn notice attached to my bike whereas it wasn't there when I can e back to it, or is it in the photographs I took of the bike when I returned to it. I appealed on this basis, but it got rejected, citing they were happy it was correctly issued. Should I just stump up the £60? They say I can appeal to the IAS, but from what I read that's a garunteed loss.
Alex

So they are alleging it was a 'windscreen' ticket but you received a notice in the post just two weeks after the parking event, is that correct?

z1a

Fruitcake wrote: »

No, I don't believe it is. It is the advice from the NEWBIES thread written by a very well respected forum member who has far more experience than I do on this subject.

Perhaps you missed the bit in the NEWBIES that tells you a 2nd stage appeal to the IAS is useless and can in fact be counter productive?

Yep, sorry, skimmed the OP & missed the fact that he had appealed initially.

Alexp01

Thank you for the replies so far people! Unfortunately didn't get the name or number of the police officer.
Links below to one photograph they have provided and one I took upon return, as I liked the background. Irony. I guess it's naivety on my part completely to listen and do as police have told me when it comes to this situation. What is the likelihood that ignoring will lead to a court appearance or other troubles? I have heard of other people never hearing anything from them, but knowing my luck I would be the one that they would pick!
Edit: Won't allow me to post a link to the photos as I might be a spammer... Need to get a few posts up before this!
Alex

Fruitcake

Alexp01 wrote: »

Thank you for the replies so far people!
Links below to one photograph they have provided and one I took upon return, as I liked the background. Irony. I guess it's naivety on my part completely to listen and do as police have told me when it comes to this situation.
Edit: Wont allow me to post a link to the photos as i might be a spammer... Need to get a few posts up before this!
Alex

Upload the pics to a web hosting site such as Postimages or Tinypic and post the URL here, but change http to hxxp. Someone here will change it back to a live link. Make sure redact the VRN.

Alexp01

hxxps://ibb.co/ezPBS5
hxxps://ibb.co/emBi75

Redx

Alexp01 wrote: »

1) What is the likelihood that ignoring will lead to a court appearance or other troubles?

2) I have heard of other people never hearing anything from them, but knowing my luck I would be the one that they would pick!

Alex

1) at the moment excel are taking lots of people to court, but the BMPA zendesk is a good source of info too

2) really ?

these people have waited over 6 years to tell you this ?

or is it because they are naive and think its "gone away" after 2 or 3 years ?

EXCEL and B W LEGAL have issued both LBC and MCOL court papers AFTER SAY 5.5 YEARS , seeing as they have 6 YEARS to do so

I think this is pure conjecture from tap room "lawyers" , who dont understand that not hearing anything for several months means it has "gone away" - it hasnt

but who knows ??, they might not ask BW LEGAL or their own in-house team to pursue it through legal channels , so come back and tell us in 2023

meanwhile , read the lamilad threads about his court battles with these muppets

Fruitcake

Alexp01 wrote: »

hxxps://ibb.co/ezPBS5
hxxps://ibb.co/emBi75

https://ibb.co/ezPBS5
https://ibb.co/emBi75