Invalid ticket!

HondaVFR

If the machine asked for her registration I'm sure she would have entered it. However the machine accepted her money, she received a ticket and Britannia were able to identify the car from the camera.. Just something doesn't seem right somehow.

Coupon-mad

HondaVFR wrote: »

Thanks again for all the help. I'd be no good as a card player, sitting and bluffing it out. They scare the pants off of me. But I'll do what you say and see what transpires. Thanks again.

Surely not? I've ignored Britannia and their laughable debt demands myself, a few years ago. Nothing to worry about, just letters. Obviously no-one here PAYS them!

Hope you have now read the NEWBIES thread and realised that next time, if you use the forum appeal as KEEPER, Britannia would fold (and would have folded within a month, in this case too).

It would have been a cinch to win at POPLA but you didn't know how. Now you do.

HondaVFR wrote: »

If the machine asked for her registration I'm sure she would have entered it. However the machine accepted her money, she received a ticket and Britannia were able to identify the car from the camera.. Just something doesn't seem right somehow.

We agree it's not right, that's why we come here every day, to stop people appealing like you did!

fisherjim

HondaVFR wrote: »

If the machine asked for her registration I'm sure she would have entered it. However the machine accepted her money, she received a ticket and Britannia were able to identify the car from the camera.. Just something doesn't seem right somehow.

This is PPC land nothing IS right but no one does anything about it!

Redx

obviously the cameras got the VRM from the pictures of entry and exit , that is not in dispute

the computers would have looked for the same VRM on a purchased ticket using the same details, but in this case they found no entry for that VRM, hence the pcn for an unpaid ticket

the ticket that was purchased has failed to show the correct VRM, either by human error or by machine failure (both are common)

so its the lack of a matching VRM paid for ticket that has caused all this , nothing peculiar or strange about it, its actually very straightforward

ie:- the paid for ticket VRM has to match the ones taken by the ANPR cameras, otherwise a pcn is issued for non-payment

happens a lot on the PEEL CENTRE in Stockport !!!

HondaVFR

Can you point me in the direction of the NEWBIES thread please. I've searched but cannot see it.

Coupon-mad

My signature tells you!!

No need to search, just read what's below.

Geoff1963

Other posters have been "invoiced" because one digit is wrong. Some people borrow cars, and might mistakenly believe the reg is something else.

Is the letter A the start of the format e.g. A111XXX ?
How specific is the wording about registration ?

I might say for instance "I dive an A-reg Skoda" meaning that the age-letter is A, rather than that A is the full registration. Is that what your wife did ? An honest interpretation of the contract term, see :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contra_proferentem

One aim of recording the registration, is to prevent the ticket being transferred to someone else, so even just the first digit makes that extremely difficult. In this case it is to match fully the ticket and the ANPR. Was there a yellow sticker on the windscreen, or just a letter in the post ?

There was presumably no ANPR record of a car registration "A", so all of the other registrations matching up ( ticket and ANPR ) means Britannia has received payment for the parking.
". . . the ticket she purchased was invalid." is an acceptance that money was paid. That means the only "breach of contract" was in the interpretation of "registration" to self-print a receipt ; which had no material effect on the basic contract of parking and paying.

HondaVFR

Sorry for the delay in responding. The 'A' is the first letter of the registration. I can't believe she would have just typed an 'A' in. We have now received a letter from Britannia saying that due to the POPLA verdict we owe £100 and if we don't pay it within 28 days actions will be taken. There's never any mention of the money which was put into the machine. My wife is now getting worried by all of this.

HondaVFR

Dear Geoff1963. I'm sorry I didn't answer one of your questions. There was no yellow ticket left on the car, we just received a letter through the post.

Umkomaas

HondaVFR wrote: »

Dear Geoff1963. I'm sorry I didn't answer one of your questions. There was no yellow ticket left on the car, we just received a letter through the post.

Of course there'd be no 'yellow ticket' as this is an ANPR capture situation. You were asked a totally irrelevant question, setting unnecessary hares running. Sorry about that!

You just need to ride out the initial blizzard of debt collector letters (thousands are doing so following advice from the forums, without problem).

Come back in the unlikely event of a LBCCC or real court papers from the CCBC in Northampton.