Holy Trinity Church Newquay

Umkomaas

Definitely 'Other'.

If your appeal won't fit the portal window (character limit exceeded), just convert your Word file to .pdf format and attach it. Put something like 'Please find attached POPLA appeal for POPLA verification code xxxxxxxxxxx'. Make sure the appeal itself also includes all the identification codes (POPLA code, VRM, PPC NtK reference etc).

We've seen absolutely no evidence that selecting 'Other' has any detrimental affect!

TalkGirl_uk

Thank you Umkomaas!! Will def bare your points in mind! The new system is bloody nightmare, i prefer the old one!

Coupon-mad

This is covered in the NEWBIES thread already...post #3 all about POPLA:

These then get saved as PDFs and uploaded to POPLA under OTHER (ONLY) - do not think you only have 2000 characters!

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/new-popla-process.html

but then it gives this little caveat for Other..."Appeals based solely on the following grounds for appeal are less likely to be successful"

POPLA lied - we think the BPA suggested that, and the other stupid weak headings. POPLA had that there on the day they started, before ANY appeals were ever received, and it is COMPLETELY untrue.

Umkomaas

Thank you Umkomaas!! Will def bare your points in mind! The new system is bloody nightmare, i prefer the old one!

Sounds very interesting, but 'bear' I think is the correct term!

Let me know if you were thinking of something different. :rotfl:

TalkGirl_uk

Okay so we have just been sent ParkingEyes defence in which to comment on and under the case summary details they have included the following statement:

Please be advised, this Parking Charge was not issued under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.

Surely if they have not adhered to POFA2012 then they are doing something very wrong, or have I misinterpreted what they are stating?

Umkomaas

If the identity of the driver has not been provided, then their lack of PoFA compliance is a slam dunk for you as the keeper.

Make sure you make this point firmly to POPLA. While you're at it, go through every other point they make and debunk anything you don't agree with, anything where you have contrary evidence for, and anything you think is plain wrong. Make an assertive point.

Just recently District Judge Rogers is reported to have said that some of their evidence in a recent county court case was 'tantamount to perjury'. If that's the case at court level in front of a judge, what would stop them at POPLA level?

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2017/09/parkingeye-witness-tantamount-to-perjury.html

Not something the Holy Trinity Church should be too proud of from their contractor! . Send the vicar a copy of that! Ask him to pray for them next Sunday!

Redx

I thought you would have known by now that POFA2012 is NOT mandatory , so they have done nothing "wrong" but you are misinterpreting their failure

the real question to ask is this (assuming its true)

as keeper, why are PE issuing me with a ticket and a popla code when they have failed POFA2012 and so cannot hold a KEEPER liable for the parking charge notice ?

as keeper, I can simply say FRO and chase the driver , who shall not be named

so they have failed to transfer liability from the driver to the keeper because they are not following POFA2012

this is the "slam dunk golden ticket" mentioned earlier

if people blab about who was driving , all the above is irrelevant , which is why we need people who come here to stop "blabbing" about it

so if they have provided their evidence pack (not a defence) then you need to highlight their failures in a concise rebuttal , and submit it before the 7 day deadline

contracts , signage , pofa 2012 , grace periods etc all feature in such rebuttals

TalkGirl_uk

Okay right i understand, being honest i did not realise that POFA2012 was not mandatory. Everyday a school day!

Regardless, turns out our comments were not needed as POPLA ruled in our favour so win win!! Thank you all for you help :-)

Coupon-mad

Yay!

Well done - and of course, as expected because you couldn't be held liable. What did the decision say, please post it (broken into paragraphs, not POPLA's wall of text) in the POPLA Decisions thread, saying which PPC you beat and giving a link back to this thread.

TalkGirl_uk

Will do! Thank you so much for all your help guys.