Sacked on the spot

chubsta

be careful with the solicitor - it will be in their financial interests to push this as far as possible regardless of chance of success...

FBaby

I would NEVER make negative comments about the business etc in front of clients.

It's amazing what you hear at the hairdresser when the staff seem totally oblivious to the fact that we can actually hear what they think only they can.

Funnily enough, it happened only last week. I was waiting for the colour to take in my hair and needed the toilets which are right next to where they wash hair. There were no customers and one was cleaning the area whilst my hairdresser was chatting with her. What I head them say, I certainly wouldn't go and repeat, but if they'd realised I'd heard it all, they would have been horrified!

sangie595

FBaby wrote: »

It's amazing what you hear at the hairdresser when the staff seem totally oblivious to the fact that we can actually hear what they think only they can.

Funnily enough, it happened only last week. I was waiting for the colour to take in my hair and needed the toilets which are right next to where they wash hair. There were no customers and one was cleaning the area whilst my hairdresser was chatting with her. What I head them say, I certainly wouldn't go and repeat, but if they'd realised I'd heard it all, they would have been horrified!

I agree. I have not needed a perm to curl my hair at some of the things I've heard hairdressers say, and I actually once heard two of them doing just what the OP did because they didn't realise I'd walked into the shop and thought it was empty!

So in the OPs shoes I would avoid the solicitor because that will cost them, and they really need to settle before a tribunal. I'd simply go with unfair dismissal on the basis of not following a fair process, and denying a right to representation, and accept a low offer but with a good agreed reference. Which means they'll have a reference to get another job. And then learn the lesson - it doesn't matter what your employer is like, you don't have a licence to slag them off.

patman99

Newdeal, you and your fellow sacked hairdresser could well join forces and set up as mobile hairdressers. Advertise on Facebook and twitter.

You could cause your former employer some serious financial damage if you get it right.

Gingernutty

newdeal wrote: »

Sorry to clairfy - the moaning and b!tching (!) was done between us, not in front of clients. Thats why were guessing he's secretly recorded it and using the client as the excuse. I would NEVER make negative comments about the business etc in front of clients. Sorry just really upset and maybe not explaining properly

Either the clients heard, or one of your colleagues grassed you up.

newdeal

What we said, who reported it etc is irrelevant at this point.

Ive been employed there for over 4 years, they cant just call me in one day, kick me out, with no process or investigation surely.

nicechap

newdeal wrote: »

What we said, who reported it etc is irrelevant at this point.

Its entirely relevant to your manager who made the decision. We don't know what they know and what they've made their decision on.

newdeal wrote: »

Ive been employed there for over 4 years, they cant just call me in one day, kick me out, with no process or investigation surely.

If you already know they can't do it why have you asked strangers on the internet? Surely your union would be able to help you on how to dispute this?

k3lvc

newdeal wrote: »

What we said, who reported it etc is irrelevant at this point.

Ive been employed there for over 4 years, they cant just call me in one day, kick me out, with no process or investigation surely.

As your employer they can do what they like - whether it's legal or not is a completly different matter and, now that they've done it, it's up to you to fight for your rights

WickedWitch123

I would say its worth pursuing through ACAS at least to get your notice pay. Whatever the reasons for the dismissal, the way they did it was "unfair". There're procedures they need to follow and if they haven't then you should pursue it.

sangie595

newdeal wrote: »

What we said, who reported it etc is irrelevant at this point.

Ive been employed there for over 4 years, they cant just call me in one day, kick me out, with no process or investigation surely.

You have already been told that they can't do this without a fair process. The issue is, what can you do about it, and what you said IS relevant to that - as has also been explained. The employer can equally argue that they deserve better conduct from their staff than making negative and detrimental comments about them, and a court is going to agree with that view. After four years employment you should also know better. This is not all about the "nasty employer". So if you went to a tribunal they will take certain things into account - one of those will definitely be that, as a small employer, he isn't as aware of the law as a big one; and another will be that you actually did this. With those two things together, you could well be taking a risk on a pyrrhic victory where you win but get nothing!


It is all very well being on your high horse about how he shouldn't have sacked you like this. He shouldn't. You should have given him cause to sack you, and you did.