Daylight Driving Lights

pd52

100% the rear led lights of my 2017 A3 are on all the time !

ROY47

You are all missing the point
Drivers in rubbish weather NOT using their lights properly Why?

Because many new cars when you start the car the front "driving lights" come on ,the dashboard lights up like a xmas tree , giving a false impression that your "lights " are on

Think about it logically dashboard lights on = car lights on to most people

I see it everyday on the motorway be it darker in the morning or early evening or when visibility is rubbish due to rain and spray
People with no lights on driving like idiots thinking my dash lights are on ...so my lights are on !

LHW99

Dacia's don't light the dashboard if you only have the DRLs, you need either side or headlights.

ROY47

Well Dacia got it right by doing this

Dacia's don't light the dashboard if you only have the DRLs, you need either side or headlights.

Mr.Generous

ROY47 wrote: »

Well Dacia got it right by doing this

Dacia's don't light the dashboard if you only have the DRLs, you need either side or headlights.

I can remember several times on older "less sophisticated" cars glancing at the instruments and noticing it dark and thinking "Ah lights required."Probably only now and again, but it did happen. Last few cars as you say, instrument lights are on all the time, much easier to forget your lights. I don't like auto lights or auto wiper, where I can I set to manual anyway. Some progress is a step backwards.

Mercdriver

My Mazda dash lights dim when headlights are on, they are quite bright when only DRLs alone are on.

James_N

facade wrote: »

The evidence is no more scientific than my opposite opinion, no testing has ever had solely DRLs as the independent variable, any perceived reduction in accidents/deaths could be correlation rather than causation.

You seem to be unaware of extensive studies in Nordic countries that clearly make the connection between DLR and safety:

http://vti.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:670987/FULLTEXT01.pdf
https://www.vti.se/en/Publications/Publication/daylight-running-lights-in-sweden_670987

even wikipedia has an article - not hard to find!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime_running_lamp
"Safety performance
Numerous studies done worldwide since the 1970s have tended to conclude that daytime running lights improve safety.[2][3][4]"

And - all the Volvos I have / friends / relations have dip dip front and rear lights wired as standard.

Strider590

My argument would be that if people pay attention and use their lights appropriately, then DRLs would not make any difference.

Sad fact is that the authorities realise that the standards of driving in the country have taken a nose dive, but rather than tackle the problem at root cause, they prefer to do things like reducing speed limits (to pander to the dipsh*ts that drive through 60 limits at 40) and legislating for DRLs (pandering to the dipsh*ts who don't know how to use their lights).

Auto headlights seemed like a great idea, but manufacturers didn't make them a standard feature and they don't work in fog or snow, so DRLs are the "solution" to that.

unforeseen

Anybody heard the VW as on the radio?. Somebody enthuses about how the LED DRLs are good for driving in foggy conditions because people can see him. He obviously doesn't realise that there are no rear lights so he is in danger of getting rear ended by not using the correct lights for the conditions

Apodemus

Strider590 wrote: »

My argument would be that if people pay attention and use their lights appropriately, then DRLs would not make any difference.

Perhaps. But if there is a one-in-a-million chance that a child sees my dipped headlights (Volvo driver) out of the corner of their eye on a sunny day and doesn't run out in front of me, that is more than worth it for me.