fence to seperate shared driveway

the_shreksta

asking on behalf of a friend (and myself for future reference)

between 2 detached houses there is a double width tarmac drive way leading down towards a double garage (1 for each house).

my friend has caught his neighbour reversing across his side of the drive to save him from moving his mrs car off the driveway-he has not asked permission to cross onto my friends side.

now my friend wants to put a small 4ft or 5ft fence up from the garage to the end of the drive to seperate the 2 drives.

-would he need planning

-can the neighbour object to the fence being put up

-if the neighbour agrees,would they need to alter their deeds?

stator

Planning permission is not required for a fence of 1m or less
He may be infringing the neighbours right of access, you would have to check the deeds.
If the neighbours deeds and your friends deeds grant each other right of access over each other's land, then it would be silly to attempt to put up a fence. (He could take your friend to court to restore access, and your friend may end up with a large legal bill)
If there is no right of access but the neighbour HAS to drive over part of your friends driveway, then he may have a right to continue doing so, since he has been doing so for so long.
If there is no right of access over each others land, and I assume they can access their own driveways fully without such access, then there is no reason he can't put up a fence.

It does seem rather spiteful, has your friend asking his neighbour not to do it?

the_shreksta

hi

yeah he has asked him not to do it but now his neighbour is parking pretty much in the middle of the double drive just to be a !!!!!!.

this is the plot i have bought with a clear red line marking out my drive half, i have read my deeds and it states nothing about the drive being a shared access. i will be wanting to put a fence up to keep my areas private.

xyz123

the_shreksta wrote: »

hi

yeah he has asked him not to do it but now his neighbour is parking pretty much in the middle of the double drive just to be a !!!!!!.

this is the plot i have bought with a clear red line marking out my drive half, i have read my deeds and it states nothing about the drive being a shared access. i will be wanting to put a fence up to keep my areas private.

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Aylesbury_Duck

Can't see the photos but from the description it seems petty. I have a similar-sounding set-up with my neighbour and we use each others' driveways to turn and manoeuvre when we need to. It just makes things easier for both parties and helps neighbours rub along. It extends to letting each other park in the other's drive when one party is on holiday, to make it appear the house is occupied and for that short period, the second car is easily parked without blocking the first.

Maybe I should consider some white lines, a fence or even a toll booth to charge my neighbour for wear and tear each time he trespasses on my drive? He could employ a reciprocal arrangement then although we'd resent each other, we'd be quits at the end of the year, so all's well.

Alex1983

Don't under stand the problem, he's probably started parking like that to be awkward because your friends being so petty about him reversing on the drive. If that is your friends biggest problem in life he's doing very well.

silvercar

The practical problem with a fence down the middle is that it makes it difficult to open car doors. Even when everyone correctly only drives and parks on their own part of the shared drive, having to allow extra room to open the door is a pain.

Apodemus

silvercar wrote: »

The practical problem with a fence down the middle is that it makes it difficult to open car doors. Even when everyone correctly only drives and parks on their own part of the shared drive, having to allow extra room to open the door is a pain.

...and the fence would presumably have to be entirely on your own side of the boundary, so you would have less space than the neighbour!

ariba10

You could put two courses of bricks on your side of the centre of the driveway.

High enough to stop any domestic vehicle but not too obtrusive.

[Deleted User]

Hi,

can't you just put a line of flower buckets on you side, conveniently placed on your side?

Silvertabby

Oh for goodness sake, life's too short for this sort of nonsense!

The two of them should sit down over a beer and agree that chap A can use the neighbours side of the drive for access, as long as he doesn't then park in the middle.

It's difficult to imagine without a picture - but it's likely that a fence running from the road to the double garage could mean that neither of them would be able to get their car into their garage/pass the bit in between the fence and the side of the house.