Deposit issue - Stain on linoleum floor

PasturesNew

Pop down the market with £10 ..... get a bath mat .... roll it up tight and then choose:

- post it through the letterbox
- ring his bell and ask him to bend over.

If it started as a family home, and they were moving back in, fair do's ... but as a rental, another/new bathmat would suffice.

unforeseen

jessex1990 wrote: »

No unforeseen it's £150 inclusive of fitting on the quote I did for a 12 metre floor bathroom.

Go on carpet right pick a floor / tile and enter your bathroom measurements - and it will give you a price then you can select professional fitting before checkout

10m x10m is like 30ft - thats bigger than my lounge diner. I'm sure you mean it's 10m when you multiply it together so more like (3m x 3.33m)

I took the figures that the show (with a bit of rounding for ease).

£16.49 per square metre equals £164.90 for 10 sq metres. Roundup to £170. This leaves roughly £60 out of the £230 for fitting. I ignored the £30 delivery and decided to go for no fitting.

Where did you get the idea that I was thinking it was 10m square?

jessex1990

unforeseen wrote: »

I took the figures that the show (with a bit of rounding for ease).

£16.49 per square metre equals £164.90 for 10 sq metres. Roundup to £170. This leaves roughly £60 out of the £230 for fitting. I ignored the £30 delivery and decided to go for no fitting.

Where did you get the idea that I was thinking it was 10m square?

I doubt a rental property is gonna have £16.50 flooring when there's stuff half that price from the same provider which still has a 5 year guarantee. The 10m square comment was for the person who commented that it was a huge bathroom, pointing out that they probably didn't mean 10 x 10 but more like 5 x2 or 3 x 3.33

anselld

jessex1990 wrote: »

I doubt a rental property is gonna have £16.50 flooring when there's stuff half that price from the same provider which still has a 5 year guarantee. The 10m square comment was for the person who commented that it was a huge bathroom, pointing out that they probably didn't mean 10 x 10 but more like 5 x2 or 3 x 3.33

I said 10sqm is a big bathroom. Most are less than half that. And yes, I meant 10sqm not 100sqm when I said it. OP has not confirmed actual size.

Sirok86

Thanks for your answers!

jessex1990:
The linoleum is a single piece so he says he needs to change it all.
It is on a like for like basis, but I think he just uses the same guys always and has not bothered to look anywhere else. Thanks for your link also. I will send it to him because one of the ones in there (Ribble 503 Gallerie Vinyl) looks a lot like the one I had. As you said it is £8 per square meter so the price he is requesting appears to be way too high.

As for the size of the bathroom that you were all commenting, it is indeed a massive one. I have not measured it being an Architect I have a bit of an idea about those things so it would not be far off.

I see that two people think that the request is excessive. I am just worried to raise a dispute and end up having to pay more.

If anybody else has any experience with a similar issue, the information would be most welcomed.

Thanks!

Fish&Chips

It seems to me to be "fair wear and tear", especially after two years.

My daughter knocked over a tea light on a carpet and it left a small burn. The LL hadn't even noticed it until my daughter pointed it out......then came a demand for a replacement carpet which would cost 400 pounds. The carpet was made of very cheap nylon and was a few years old.

She disputed it with the deposit service, stating that she believed that the LL wanted "betterment" (a very important word to use) rather than discounting the cost of the damage from the expected life span of the carpet. The result was that my daughter's deposit was refunded, less 30 pounds for the damaged carpet.

Incidentally, she returned to the flat after moving out to drop off a bathroom key which had been packed by mistake. A new tenant was there and so was the old carpet which had never been replaced by the LL!

FBaby

It seems to me to be "fair wear and tear"

How is it fair wear and tear when OP himself say that it was caused due to using an incorrect bathmat?

Frankly it can go any way depending on the LL defense. What will go towards him is the fact that it was new when you moved in and the inventory/receipt will show this. It will then all depends on the quality of the pictures (amazing how things looks so much less noticeable on pictures!), how much he says (and can demonstrate) it cost him to fit, and most importantly, it will depend on the adjudicator, as there is always an element of subjectivity into it.

If he can evidence the cost of the flooring replacement and then deduct 20%, he might get it, especially if he can show some document that says flooring is expected to last 10 years! Otherwise, the adjudicator might decide that 20% is not enough and deduct 30%.

bouicca21

Adjudication won't cost anything but will delay return of the deposit.

Personally I'd dispute the deduction. if the stain really is small and difficult to notice, I'd argue that replacement is ott. Make sure you have photos.

bouicca21

PS. How does a wrongly placed bath mat cause a stain?

Sirok86

Thanks for your answers Fish&Chips, FBaby and bouicca21.

Unfortunately, I did not take pictures of it as I was taken by surprise with his attitude (he had been a very good landlord until then).

The problem with the bathmat is that I always left it in the same position and being wet after the shower the water went through the mat and ended staining the flooring. I have never lived in an apartment with linoleum before so I did not expect that to happen. Usually, if you use ceramic tiles these things go away very easily.

I understand that I should be paying a little bit for that, but I believe changing the whole floor is over the top. I have read online that sometimes you can pay a small amount for the diminution in value of the element, which I would be willing to do. That was probably the case for Fish&Chips' daughter.

My view is that I have not too much to lose if I disputed it as I have found prices much lower than the one he wants to charge me. I would imagine that the deposit service, if they think the whole floor needs to be replaced, will deduct a more standard rate (especially if I can prove that it is available) than just whatever he decides to charge me using the company he always uses.

He is also charging me £42 for fixing a coffee table and a table roll holder (down from £84) so I have to add that into the equation.

If anybody else has similar experiences as mine or Fish&Chips' daughter, please share!

Thanks!