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  • Reue
    Reue Posts: 569 Forumite
    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    OK, provide further detail including the things I wrote/links I gave you, in the post yesterday. Ask DD to liaise with the IPC to investigate why UKCPM are saying a driver's details are required in any appeal - that is NOT the case.

    Also add that you notice that UKCPM were claiming to be members of the Independent Parking Committee in their 'old' letter footer, which they are not. Claiming to be a member of a stated body (expressed to be their 'Trade Body') when they are not is not dissimilar to the criminal charges brought against NGPM last month:

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/new-generation-parking-management-found.html

    Throw ALL of the above to Mr Dunford including a copy of the PCN and including everything from my previous post as well. The IPC are twisting the appeals process away from the level held to be acceptable by the DVLA in 2014.

    I have already sent him the information from your post yesterday in the communication before last. I was therefore going to send this over, would you add anything else?

    Thank you for your quick response Mr Dunford. Please find attached the original Notice To Keeper which contains the requested details from the IPC.


    I would ask that you liaise with the IPC to investigate why UKCPM are saying a driver's details are required in any appeal - that is NOT the case.


    I also notice that UKCPM were claiming to be members of the Independent Parking Committee in their 'old' letter footer, which they are not. Claiming to be a member of a stated body (expressed to be their 'Trade Body') when they are not is not dissimilar to the criminal charges brought against NGPM last month: http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/new-generation-parking-management-found.html
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,750 Forumite
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    Yay, go for it!

    Also ask him for his comments as to the Parking Prankster's blog (he knows of the Prankster) and the FOI relating to it, which show that the DVLA did require that an appeal route was provided for registered keepers, and that no ATA can say that only a driver can appeal/or that a keeper MUST name the driver, when there is no such duty.

    Add that:

    This is an attempt to circumvent the requirement for an independent appeal system to be in place FOR KEEPERS, before PPCs were even allowed to make use of the POFA back in October 2012. The IPC cannot get around this requirement which was clearly for keepers to be able to appeal any NTK (regardless of whether it's a para 8 or para 9 type), nothing to do with drivers, because the POFA Sch4 is not about the interests of drivers.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • Reue
    Reue Posts: 569 Forumite
    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    Yay, go for it!

    Also ask him for his comments as to the Parking Prankster's blog (he knows of the Prankster) and the FOI relating to it, which show that the DVLA did require that an appeal route was provided for registered keepers, and that no ATA can say that only a driver can appeal/or that a keeper MUST name the driver, when there is no such duty.

    Add that:

    This is an attempt to circumvent the requirement for an independent appeal system to be in place FOR KEEPERS, before PPCs were even allowed to make use of the POFA back in October 2012. The IPC cannot get around this requirement which was clearly for keepers to be able to appeal any NTK (regardless of whether it's a para 8 or para 9 type), nothing to do with drivers, because the POFA Sch4 is not about the interests of drivers.

    Apologies, I am out of the office until Wednesday 2nd August

    Kind regards

    David Dunford

    Typical! :D
  • Reue
    Reue Posts: 569 Forumite
    Good afternoon,

    The case is now with Gladstones who have started court proceedings and a claim form has arrived. The keeper has had no other communication from them, certainly no letter before action etc. Before they start acknowleding the claim and following the steps in the NERWBIES thread; is there anyone to highlight the lack of letter before action to?

    Thanks in advance.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    Reue wrote: »
    is there anyone to highlight the lack of letter before action to?

    Mention it in your Defence.

    What is the Date of Issue on your Claim Form?
  • Reue
    Reue Posts: 569 Forumite
    KeithP wrote: »
    Mention it in your Defence.

    What is the Date of Issue on your Claim Form?


    13th August 2018
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    Then you have until 1st September to do the Acknowledgement of Service to give you an extra fourteen days to prepare your Defence.

    There is nothing to be gained by delaying the AoS.
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