friend getting married - what happens if the worse were to occur?

bowlhead99

username12345678 wrote: »

And the chances of it happening aren't far off 50/50.

I have no idea what the stats are on divorce rates.
However the chance of it happening to you or "to a friend" are quite unlikely to be fixed by the average number of marriages that fail, whether that statistic is 50/50 or 70/30 or 30/70 or whatever.

There will be factors that feed into the likelihood of it working out, or not working out. A greater or lower number of those factors may be present in a particular relationship pre marriage and over its course. Your personal 'survival rate' is not really determined by how many people get bored of their partner or grow to dislike their partner or find something or someone better to do, because it's not about some anonymous 'them and their partner', it's about two specific people with specific circumstances.

So, the "betting half of what I've got or am ever going to get, on this person being right for me" might be a good stand-up comedian line but even if you take it at face value, the odds on the bet is not just the ratio of published divorces to marriages for the population as a whole.

Malthusian

cashbackproblems wrote: »

You are clueless, there is no way a UK lawyer can access information in Dubai it is the least likely country where information would be shared with the UK!!

Doesn't need to. After accessing information in the UK he just needs to ask where that £100,000 withdrawal that appears on the UK bank statement went to. Or when such and such a property was sold, why don't the proceeds appear in the UK bank accounts.

Neither solicitors nor women are as stupid as you think they are, praise be to Allah.

atush wrote:

They paid X into the joint acct, and that was used to pay the bills. But the money paid for the mtg was paid from his sole acct.

So she was paying the bills, not contributing to the property? If her money was being used to buy food or other essentials then it's not going towards the mortgage.

username12345678

atush wrote: »

I read what you wrote, saying his future spouse would take all of his money and leave him in financial ruin.

That sounded a bit hysterical to me, esp from someone who is happily married. It sounded more like someone resentful after a divorce?

You would perhaps be better served reading posts properly rather than leaping to judgement and assumption on the basis of what you think you read.

However, feel free to quote the post where I said a future spouse WOULD take all of his money and leave him in financial ruin.

And i'm sure it would be a revelation my wife to find out we are divorcing.

cashbackproblems

Malthusian wrote: »

Doesn't need to. After accessing information in the UK he just needs to ask where that £100,000 withdrawal that appears on the UK bank statement went to. Or when such and such a property was sold, why don't the proceeds appear in the UK bank accounts.

Neither solicitors nor women are as stupid as you think they are, praise be to Allah.



So she was paying the bills, not contributing to the property? If her money was being used to buy food or other essentials then it's not going towards the mortgage.

There would be no 100k withdrawal...as I said only the last 12 months statements are requested (unless any suspicions), and it is based on what you declare. if you have been smart planned ahead (before marriage) and have multiple accounts there is no way to trace it. My brother and many friends have been through this and done the same and I know a divorce lawyer.

gwapenut

If he has a kid and then gets divorced then keeping 50% would be an aspiration rather than a fear.

Malthusian

cashbackproblems wrote: »

There would be no 100k withdrawal...as I said only the last 12 months statements are requested (unless any suspicions)

And you don't think the statement of assets being much less than the ex wife is expecting to see is suspicious at all?

Perhaps if you had the foresight to squirrel away the money years in advance of the marriage, and carefully avoided discussion around the dinner table about your finances and how much money you made, and didn't spend the income or otherwise benefit from your hidden investments during the marriage so that your wife didn't notice a discrepancy between your lifestyle and what you eventually declared your assets to be... you might successfully hide money without leaving a loose end for your ex-wife's solicitor to pull on.

Wouldn't it be simpler to not get married?

My brother and many friends have been through this and done the same and I know a divorce lawyer.

By "done the same" do you mean they have opened bank accounts in Dubai, or do you mean they successfully went through a divorce without revealing the full extent of their assets, and their ex wife hasn't twigged for many years afterward - even though they have blabbed about it to their brother and their friends and their brother likes to blab about it on the Internet?

The former means sod all and the latter makes you an accessory to fraud so you're free to refuse to answer.

Malthusian

gwapenut wrote: »

If he has a kid and then gets divorced then keeping 50% would be an aspiration rather than a fear.

Assuming he doesn't want an equal share of the custody.

cashbackproblems

Malthusian wrote: »

And you don't think the statement of assets being much less than the ex wife is expecting to see is suspicious at all?

Perhaps if you had the foresight to squirrel away the money years in advance of the marriage, and carefully avoided discussion around the dinner table about your finances and how much money you made, and didn't spend the income or otherwise benefit from your hidden investments during the marriage so that your wife didn't notice a discrepancy between your lifestyle and what you eventually declared your assets to be... you might successfully hide money without leaving a loose end for your ex-wife's solicitor to pull on.

Wouldn't it be simpler to not get married?

By "done the same" do you mean they have opened bank accounts in Dubai, or do you mean they successfully went through a divorce without revealing the full extent of their assets, and their ex wife hasn't twigged for many years afterward - even though they have blabbed about it to their brother and their friends and their brother likes to blab about it on the Internet?

The former means sod all and the latter makes you an accessory to fraud so you're free to refuse to answer.

That is the point you start planning years in advance and how many know their true partners financial situation (unless you spell it out line by line which not many do). Marriage does not bring people financially together now a days people operate separate accounts and savings etc.

Malthusian

Years in advance of the marriage or years in advance of the first date?

If the former you have to come up with some creative excuses to delay the wedding while you p--- about playing at buried treasure, while if the latter - or the former - it seems to be an awful lot of foresight and planning required when you could just not get married.

cashbackproblems

Malthusian wrote: »

Years in advance of the marriage or years in advance of the first date?

If the former you have to come up with some creative excuses to delay the wedding while you p--- about playing at buried treasure, while if the latter - or the former - it seems to be an awful lot of foresight and planning required when you could just not get married.

opening another account and doing a transfer is not really a major task, it is something more and more people who have some wealth are doing to protect themselves. It took me maybe 1/2 hours to plan everything.