The Nice People Thread, No.16: A Universe of Niceness.

Pyxis

It has settled a lot more overnight, although the road isn't too bad. Not snowing atm.

Forecast not too bad....... some more due this evening, which should make returning from the gala show interesting!
However, it all looks to be 'normal' light snow conditions, really.


Just seen on news some Norfolk clifftop homes about to fall into the sea, due to high tides causing cliff drops.
Hemsby in Norfolk. People had to move out, and their furniture, as they are now only inches from the edge of a now crumbling cliff. Poor people. Their homes might fall into the sea today.

I don't suppose their insurance covers it? Apparently there were similar problems last year when some house did actually fall into the sea.

PasturesNew

I've got a couple of inches of crisp snow everywhere. There's now fine snow falling.

Not going out today, no need to. Looking at it, if I "had to go out" it'd probably be OK once I'd dug the car out and been the very first car to reach the road (say 75' of driving, including up a 25' slope) it'd be OK out on the roads. They grit the road that's about 100 yards from here.

chris_m

A slight dusting here, but I gather it's worse further east in the county.

PasturesNew

Huge flakes falling/settling here now .... not weather to go out in.

Snow's very rare; even though the telly tells you it'll come, you never expect it to.

PasturesNew

Pyxis wrote: »

Just seen on news some Norfolk clifftop homes about to fall into the sea, due to high tides causing cliff drops.
Hemsby in Norfolk. People had to move out, and their furniture, as they are now only inches from the edge of a now crumbling cliff. Poor people. Their homes might fall into the sea today.

I don't suppose their insurance covers it? Apparently there were similar problems last year when some house did actually fall into the sea.

To be fair, these homes have historically always been at risk as the cliffs there have crumbled forever. I remember as a small child seeing such remnants teetering on the edges of Norfolk cliffs.

The "homes" are technically "holiday chalets/not intended for all year round use", where people have, over time, simply ignored all that because years ago you could "get away with it, who is to know". They were never/very rarely ever built as "homes", but as holiday chalets.

While I have some sympathy for those who have had it in the family for 50-100 years.... anybody who bought in the last 30-40 years was fully aware that this was going to happen at some point and simply gambled it wouldn't happen to them in their lifetime.

A lot of people move to these places, with restrictions such as having to move out for 4-6 weeks of the year. They move in, knowing they have to move out every year, so simply book a holiday/go stay with friends during that time to "get round the rules". They pay council tax, but are not considered "of this parish" by the local churches when they want to be buried there. The homes are officially designated as "2nd homes/holiday homes" and not people's main residence.

This one is £45k ... although if you wait until tomorrow it'll probably have been reduced.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-52046163.html

GDB2222

PasturesNew wrote: »

To be fair, these homes have historically always been at risk as the cliffs there have crumbled forever. I remember as a small child seeing such remnants teetering on the edges of Norfolk cliffs.

The "homes" are technically "holiday chalets/not intended for all year round use", where people have, over time, simply ignored all that because years ago you could "get away with it, who is to know". They were never/very rarely ever built as "homes", but as holiday chalets.

While I have some sympathy for those who have had it in the family for 50-100 years.... anybody who bought in the last 30-40 years was fully aware that this was going to happen at some point and simply gambled it wouldn't happen to them in their lifetime.

A lot of people move to these places, with restrictions such as having to move out for 4-6 weeks of the year. They move in, knowing they have to move out every year, so simply book a holiday/go stay with friends during that time to "get round the rules". They pay council tax, but are not considered "of this parish" by the local churches when they want to be buried there. The homes are officially designated as "2nd homes/holiday homes" and not people's main residence.

This one is £45k ... although if you wait until tomorrow it'll probably have been reduced.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-52046163.html

You reckon it won’t even be there tomorrow?

Tenure
Leasehold. Annual renewable licence. Annual ground rent to be confirmed.

That could be thousands, I suspect.

chris_m

PasturesNew wrote: »

This one is £45k ... although if you wait until tomorrow it'll probably have been reduced.

To rubble at the foot of a cliff, perchance?

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

PasturesNew

GDB2222 wrote: »

Tenure
Leasehold. Annual renewable licence. Annual ground rent to be confirmed.

That could be thousands, I suspect.

I'd expect, there, for the annual ground rent to be £400-1000 or so (without looking).... they don't tend to be "much" on the Norfolk/Suffolk coasts in the main, compared, say, to other areas in the country.

chris_m

PasturesNew wrote: »

I'd expect, there, for the annual ground rent to be £400-1000 or so (without looking).... they don't tend to be "much" on the Norfolk/Suffolk coasts in the main, compared, say, to other areas in the country.

I'd call that a lot - my old flat was £20pa

Pyxis

For £45,000, I don't expect the lease is very long.