Rant

unholyangel

almillar wrote: »

That's good driving, and he's not complaining about you, he's complaining about people who leave TOO BIG a gap (leave this purposely undefined), stop needlessly, then don't get going again quickly. And he's right, it's against the Highway Code which does, basically tell you to 'go with the flow'.

I believe OP said it was about 20 car lengths - so about 100m/300ft if they were completely nose to tail.

But I wouldnt say stop/start has any kind of "flow" to it given flow means to move steadily & continuously. Nor would I recommend OP rely on the highway code - as given its rules on being considerate, not letting yourself get wound up when people drive badly and to pull over to allow yourself time to calm down etc, it may look like he's selectively applying it.


And I dont mean to doubt OP (as I said in previous response, we didn't see the gap ourselves), but I'm more amazed at the possibility a driver could leave a 100m gap on a 3 lane road jam packed with traffic and NOT have any vehicles from other lanes cross over into the space.

Reminds me of those people you get in queues who have to be right up behind you in case someone dares to mistake the 6" gap between you as a free pass to jump the queue - despite the fact they've already been allocated their seat. They feel agitated until they actually get to that seat - especially by any gaps. The bigger the gap, the bigger the agitation. Same thing happens with car queues. People get agitated when they see a gap appearing as it makes them feel their progress is being hindered but as before, if there was still traffic up ahead then it makes little difference and imo its nothing to let yourself get worked up about it.

lluzers

AndyPix wrote: »

This is a message to the people who, in rush hour traffic, on a chocca-bloc motorway -
In the 3rd lane, leave a massive 2 mile gap between them and the car in front ...


I hate you


I hate you with every fibre of my being


You do reaslise that it is people like you who actually cause the massive tail-backs ??
If you dont want to keep up - MOVE OVER


You make my blood boil and you should be stripped of your license and sent to jail


Rant over

I got the solution , get the missus to sit in front with you ,whist you are driving.It will solve your issues with others,

Shoshannah

AndyPix wrote: »

Undertaking is illegal

Not in stop-start traffic it's not - it's impossible to avoid in such a situation.

Anyway, that's not what I was referring to.

I was genuinely wondering why people leaving a long gap is only considered a problem in the third lane, and not the first and second lanes. Except in certain specific circumstances, such as approaching a junction, motorway congestion generally affects all lanes.

peter_the_piper

Surely more problems are caused by the drivers which switch from lane 2 to the fast lane because its 6 inches further forward then switch back to the middle lane when it moves faster.

Shoshannah

peter_the_piper wrote: »

Surely more problems are caused by the drivers which switch from lane 2 to the fast lane because its 6 inches further forward then switch back to the middle lane when it moves faster.

I remember watching a documentary on BBC2 about traffic jams years ago (must have been late 90s or early 00s) in which they conducted a experiment.

They had four drivers in a motorway jam. One for each lane - and they had to stay in lane - and a fourth who had to move between lanes. They were testing who got further, faster.

The conclusion was that all four cars progressed about the same distance in the same amount of time, thus you may as well just pick any lane and stay in it. The lane-swapper probably !!!!ed off more people though.

I don't know how relevant the results of this 'experiment' are in a real-world situation!

lluzers

There is a youtube video called clever monkeys bbc.

The relevance of this video to this subject , we are looking at ourselves in the mirror .No mater what rules and systems , we introduce on the road , drivers will always behave with their ancestral ways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCrme1JQ5vQ

peter_the_piper

Shoshannah wrote: »

I remember watching a documentary on BBC2 about traffic jams years ago (must have been late 90s or early 00s) in which they conducted a experiment.

They had four drivers in a motorway jam. One for each lane - and they had to stay in lane - and a fourth who had to move between lanes. They were testing who got further, faster.

The conclusion was that all four cars progressed about the same distance in the same amount of time, thus you may as well just pick any lane and stay in it. The lane-swapper probably !!!!ed off more people though.

I don't know how relevant the results of this 'experiment' are in a real-world situation!

Well I have managed to get past the "Wiseguy" lane jumpers when people got fed up and would not let them back in the lane and our lane went through the jam much quicker in the end.

Aylesbury_Duck

As with joining till queues in supermarkets, if you're easily frustrated by what seems to be the faster pace of other queues, get yourself in the first or outside lane of a motorway. That way you only have one neighbouring lane to envy.

Nodding_Donkey

Aylesbury_Duck wrote: »

As with joining till queues in supermarkets, if you're easily frustrated by what seems to be the faster pace of other queues, get yourself in the first or outside lane of a motorway. That way you only have one neighbouring lane to envy.

That's the best bit of advice I have read on here.

Ever

Mercdriver

Aylesbury_Duck wrote: »

As with joining till queues in supermarkets, if you're easily frustrated by what seems to be the faster pace of other queues, get yourself in the first or outside lane of a motorway. That way you only have one neighbouring lane to envy.

Best piece of advice for supermarket queues is to avoid the basket only lane. It's not the scanning that takes the time, it's the transaction. There could be 10 people in the basket lane and two big shops in front of you in a normal lane, you will generally get away quicker.