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Payday Loans Debt Spiral

Velli
Velli Posts: 70 Forumite
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edited 21 June 2017 at 1:31PM in Loans
Hello there!

First of all I apologise if this is not the right place for these queries.

I am a stupid 23 year old who was once an even more stupid 21 year old who fell into a payday loan debt spiral with Wonga and Wage Day Advance. I am now in the process of taking responsibility and seizing control of my finances by meticulously going through my credit report however have a few questions I was hoping someone here has the answers to.

By the end of 2015 I had taken one loan too many from Wonga (£250) and Wage day (£300) advance which led to defaults in both cases issued around May 2016. Fast forward a year after complaining to the Financial Ombudsmen for what I considered irresponsible lending Wonga recently came back with an offer through the FO for £600 which will cover both outstanding debts and hopefully get both defaults expunged from my record.

However around the same time I took a £1000 loan from 118 Money who have not put a default on my account but rather continuously noted BB every month for the last 15 months. Should the loan not have been defaulted back in 2015 when no regular payments were being made? Can I request a default for then? If I settle for the full amount outstanding when will traces of the loan drop off my credit file?

Thank you ever so much in advance.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 35,383 Forumite
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    You could certainly ask for a backdated default - you may get lucky.

    If you cleared it today (assuming no backdated default) it will drop off your file in 6 years.
  • Candyapple
    Candyapple Posts: 3,385 Forumite
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    You do realise that even if you get the £600 to clear the 2 debts, that just because you pay them off, it doesn't mean that the 2 defaults will be removed as well?

    Have you got some form of agreement from Wonga and Wage Day stating as such?
    I'm a Board Guide on the Credit Cards, Loans, Credit Files & Ratings boards. I'm a volunteer to help the boards run smoothly, and I can move and merge threads there. Any views are mine and not the official line of moneysavingexpert.com
  • IAmWales
    IAmWales Posts: 2,024 Forumite
    You don't appear to be taking responsibility, but blaming others.
  • Velli
    Velli Posts: 70 Forumite
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    You could certainly ask for a backdated default - you may get lucky.

    If you cleared it today (assuming no backdated default) it will drop off your file in 6 years.

    Is asking for a backdated default the way to go?

    I intend to settle the loan and have 118 reflect this on my credit report which should hopefully buy me 15 months later down the line.

    On the other hand I can settle now and have to deal with a 'settled loan' on my credit file for 6 years.

    Which of these is the better option in your opinion?
  • Candyapple
    Candyapple Posts: 3,385 Forumite
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    Forgot to add, you should check all 3 of your credit files because just because it's marked as 'BB' on one of them, doesn't mean it doesn't show as defaulted on the others.

    The free versions to check your credit files are below:
    Experian: https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/creditclub
    Equifax: https://www.clearscore.com
    Call Credit: https://www.noddle.co.uk
    I'm a Board Guide on the Credit Cards, Loans, Credit Files & Ratings boards. I'm a volunteer to help the boards run smoothly, and I can move and merge threads there. Any views are mine and not the official line of moneysavingexpert.com
  • Velli
    Velli Posts: 70 Forumite
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    Candyapple wrote: »
    You do realise that even if you get the £600 to clear the 2 debts, that just because you pay them off, it doesn't mean that the 2 defaults will be removed as well?

    Have you got some form of agreement from Wonga and Wage Day stating as such?

    I am currently in the process of requesting they remove defaults in credit history which I believe they have the power to do? If they do is it likely since they basically admitted to irresponsibly lending to me?
  • Candyapple
    Candyapple Posts: 3,385 Forumite
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    Velli wrote: »
    I am currently in the process of requesting they remove defaults in credit history which I believe they have the power to do? If they do is it likely since they basically admitted to irresponsibly lending to me?

    Yes to first one, no to second.
    I'm a Board Guide on the Credit Cards, Loans, Credit Files & Ratings boards. I'm a volunteer to help the boards run smoothly, and I can move and merge threads there. Any views are mine and not the official line of moneysavingexpert.com
  • Velli
    Velli Posts: 70 Forumite
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    Candyapple wrote: »
    Yes to first one, no to second.

    So in that case when will the loan cease to exist in credit file? From the date of when it was first defaulted? or the date it was settled in full?
  • Candyapple
    Candyapple Posts: 3,385 Forumite
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    Velli wrote: »
    So in that case when will the loan cease to exist in credit file? From the date of when it was first defaulted? or the date it was settled in full?

    6 years from the date it was defaulted.
    I'm a Board Guide on the Credit Cards, Loans, Credit Files & Ratings boards. I'm a volunteer to help the boards run smoothly, and I can move and merge threads there. Any views are mine and not the official line of moneysavingexpert.com
  • AndyPix
    AndyPix Posts: 4,847 Forumite
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    You could certainly ask for a backdated default - you may get lucky.

    If you cleared it today (assuming no backdated default) it will drop off your file in 6 years.


    But dont the guidelines state that the credit file must show an accurate representation of the state of the account ?
    And in this case, the account defaulted months ago :confused:
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