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Is it possible to break a trust?

silvercar
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Trying to help someone out.
The deceased has left a pot of money in trust. The stipulation made in the will is that the amount is held for the named offspring of X, but X gets the benefit of the money during their lifetime.
X has no need for the benefit of the money (I assume this means interest/ dividends etc) and would like to forego this money in order that the offspring could use this money now eg for a deposit on a property. Is this possible? Offspring is over 18 if that is significant.
Thanks for any insights.
The deceased has left a pot of money in trust. The stipulation made in the will is that the amount is held for the named offspring of X, but X gets the benefit of the money during their lifetime.
X has no need for the benefit of the money (I assume this means interest/ dividends etc) and would like to forego this money in order that the offspring could use this money now eg for a deposit on a property. Is this possible? Offspring is over 18 if that is significant.
Thanks for any insights.
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"ending a interest in possession trust early"
will find references you need
Relatively simple process but needs the tax situation checking.
If less than two years then a DOV probably could be used to avoid the trust completely again the tax implications needed assessing especially if X was a spouse/civil partner of the testator as a DOV effects the transferable nil rate band.0 -
getmore4less wrote: »"ending a interest in possession trust early"
will find references you need
Relatively simple process but needs the tax situation checking.
If less than two years then a DOV probably could be used to avoid the trust completely again the tax implications needed assessing especially if X was a spouse/civil partner of the testator as a DOV effects the transferable nil rate band.
Too late for a DOV.
What are the tax implications? X and their offspring are tax payers.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages, student & coronavirus Boards, money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0 -
Too late for a DOV.
What are the tax implications? X and their offspring are tax payers.0 -
Too late for a DOV.
What are the tax implications? X and their offspring are tax payers.
You will have to research
these questions are better posed on the tax board that's where those with current knowledge and experience tend to hang out.
for will based IIP trusts they can be straightforward.
typically for a qualifying IIP that forms part of the life tenants estate it becomes PET, with the usual 7 year rules.
There is also the issue of disposal and CGT which don't apply when the life tenant dies.0 -
Accept that there may be tax considerations.
Good to know it can be done. Basically the deceased was trying to protect inheritance for the benefit of future generations. So left money to grand children in trust with their parents (his own children) to have the benefit of the interest of the trust.
Really he didn't think it through, because had he been alive and wanted to distribute part of his estate prior to his death, he would have been happy for the parent to agree that the grand children to be able to use the money for house deposits.
The way the trust was set up, the money has to remain in the trust for the benefit of it for the parent.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages, student & coronavirus Boards, money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0 -
Accept that there may be tax considerations.
Good to know it can be done. Basically the deceased was trying to protect inheritance for the benefit of future generations. So left money to grand children in trust with their parents (his own children) to have the benefit of the interest of the trust.
Really he didn't think it through, because had he been alive and wanted to distribute part of his estate prior to his death, he would have been happy for the parent to agree that the grand children to be able to use the money for house deposits.
The way the trust was set up, the money has to remain in the trust for the benefit of it for the parent.0
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