FTB - HomeBuyer Report Findings - Gas and Electricity

harshitguptaiitr

Sorry - posting on an old thread.

Is it a reasonable request to ask seller to provide Electrical Installation Condition Report to justify that comments in Homebuyer report are just !!!! covering...

Also when is a good time to initiate such discussions? After vendor solicitor has issued the contract pack or before that? Before getting a mortgage offer or after that?

My viewpoint is that before vendor's solicitor has done any work, seller could easily walk away without losing a penny.

G_M

harshitguptaiitr wrote: »

Is it a reasonable request to ask seller to provide Electrical Installation Condition Report to justify that comments in Homebuyer report are just !!!! coverng...
You can ask for anything you like!

But if I were the seller I'd respond that I'm happy to permit access for your electrician to come in and inspect.

Also when is a good time to initiate such discussions? After vendor solicitor has issued the contract pack or before that? Before getting a mortgage offer or after that?
Why wait? You serious about buying or just wasting time?

My viewpoint is that before vendor's solicitor has done any work, seller could easily walk away without losing a penny.

and the seller's viewpoint is tht before the buyer has done all his inspections he could just walk away........

G_M

harshitguptaiitr wrote: »

Is it a reasonable request to ask seller to provide Electrical Installation Condition Report to justify that comments in Homebuyer report are just !!!! coverng...
You can ask for anything you like!

But if I were the seller I'd respond that I'm happy to permit access for your electrician to come in and inspect.

Also when is a good time to initiate such discussions? After vendor solicitor has issued the contract pack or before that? Before getting a mortgage offer or after that?
Why wait? You serious about buying or just wasting time?

My viewpoint is that before vendor's solicitor has done any work, seller could easily walk away without losing a penny.

and the seller's viewpoint is tht before the buyer has done all his inspections he could just walk away........

societys_child

You want everything up to the latest specs, buy a new build, even then it may not be perfect.

harshitguptaiitr

I paid for the Electrical Installation Conditions Report and the report conclusion was UNSATISFACTORY.

There was no C1 findings, but one C2 finding and I would like to get some advice please on how much would this cost:

Installation of RCD protection on all final circuits

DoaM

A new consumer unit will have an MCB for each circuit, and an overall RCD protecting the whole system. Plus a main isolator. Depending on the system, there may be separate RCDs (e.g. 1 for upstairs, 1 for downstairs).

Example: http://www.sg-electrics.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Modern-Consumer-Unit.jpg

ProDave

harshitguptaiitr wrote: »

I paid for the Electrical Installation Conditions Report and the report conclusion was UNSATISFACTORY.

There was no C1 findings, but one C2 finding and I would like to get some advice please on how much would this cost:

Your electrician is WRONG.

Asking doe rcd's on ALL circuits just to give it a satisfactory condition is plain wrong. It is possible (though I admit unusual) to still install new circuits now without an rcd and comply with current regs.

I would agree now things like sockets and showers should have an rcd but there is certainly no need to upgrade say lighting circuits. you only need to update such a circuit to rcd protection if you are making alterations to that circuit.

Now it may well be the only way to get rcd's on some circuits is to replace the consumer unit, so if doing that you might as well update all circuits, but his point that ALL need an rcd in order to be classed as satisfactory is simply WRONG.

harshitguptaiitr

Update on situation on this thread for electrical safety issue on homebuyer Report and on Electrical installation condition report:

I have got a quotation from a different electrician to make the property for safe "electrically".

I have been quoted 420 for replacing the existing fuse wire type distribution unit with a
new metal clad 17th edition distribution unit incorporating RCD protection and for providing a part P certificate

I am a bit concerned because I was under impression that changing distribution unit will also require rewiring which an electrician should have quoted for and should easily see in an unfurnished property. Or maybe I am wrong here.

Is there any other certificate required when such a work is being done? So that I don't get caught out at a later stage...

harshitguptaiitr

I have been quoted £420 for replacing the existing fuse wire type distribution unit with a
new metal clad 17th edition distribution unit incorporating RCD protection and for providing a part P certificate

I am a bit concerned because I was under impression that changing distribution unit will also require rewiring which an electrician should have quoted for and should easily see in an unfurnished property. Or maybe I am wrong here.

Is there any other certificate required when such a work is being done? So that I don't get caught out at a later stage...

One more question please - should the vendor pay for this work or is this something I will have to pay for?

ProDave

harshitguptaiitr wrote: »

Update on situation on this thread for electrical safety issue on homebuyer Report and on Electrical installation condition report:

I have got a quotation from a different electrician to make the property for safe "electrically".

I have been quoted 420 for replacing the existing fuse wire type distribution unit with a
new metal clad 17th edition distribution unit incorporating RCD protection and for providing a part P certificate

I am a bit concerned because I was under impression that changing distribution unit will also require rewiring which an electrician should have quoted for and should easily see in an unfurnished property. Or maybe I am wrong here.

Is there any other certificate required when such a work is being done? So that I don't get caught out at a later stage...

As well as a part P certificate (only in England and Wales) you should also get an EIC, Electrical Installation Certificate.

In order to change the consumer unit, at the very least the installer will have to test the existing wiring, and may well have to correct some faults. In particular I am sure the earth bonding will need improving (it may not have any at all)

The basic wiring for the socket and light circuits etc may very well still be perfectly okay, but it is quite common to find faults on the lighting circuits.

If the installer is happy with the state of the wiring and fits a new consumer unit and issues the correct certificates you should not have anything to worry about. You can then change the switches and sockets for newer more modern ones, and then any rewiring or alterations boils down to are there enough sockets and in the right places.