Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

cogito

gfplux wrote: »

Absolutely nothing like that mentioned in the joint press conference last night.
I watched it through to the end.
They jointly issued the following timetable.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/publications/terms-reference-article-50-treaty-european-union-negotiations_en

Agreed but there were a number of quotes from EU personnel confirming that.

Fella

always_sunny wrote: »

I think the price may contribute reading share too, the Guardian is £1.60 (?), how much is the DE and DM?

Honestly haven't the foggiest, the only paper I've bought in the last 30 years has been the sporting life or the racing post.

Zero_Gravitas

Conrad wrote: »

It's pure biased nonsense providing only an oblique angle into politics.

Are you talking about the Daily Mail again?

I thing it's high time the people of this country took a stand against the preachers of hate, and demanded that the Daily Mail is shut down immediately.

gfplux

Herzlos wrote: »

Is there a transcript somewhere? Not sure I'll get time to sit through a 33min video.

There must be but I presently I can not locate it.
Perhaps you could ask the BBC.
However the 33 minutes of video will give so much more than the (dry) transcript.

gfplux

cogito wrote: »

Agreed but there were a number of quotes from EU personnel confirming that.

Sources please.
Which of these members of Barniers team are you (accusing) referring to?
http://www.politico.eu/article/whos-who-in-the-brexit-talks/?utm_source=POLITICO.EU&utm_campaign=3c51f90b85-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_06_19&utm_medium=email&utm_ter%20%20m=0_10959edeb5-3c51f90b85-190026745

There is far too much conjecture speculation and guessing going on.

I intend to stick (when I can) with source material. Frankly unattributable briefings are mostly slight of hand.

Have you ACTUALLY READ the EU briefing paper (10 pages) published and sent to the British Government (David Davis included) a week before Mondays first meeting??

For the umpteenth time, here it is https://ec.europa.eu/commission/publications/position-paper-essential-principles-financial-settlement_en

gfplux

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Double fault. There's been no score.............

Somebody's got faulty balls, lol.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

Somebody's got faulty balls, lol.

Seems as if the boat is sailing in any event........... The UK still offers something for those that don't share the same aspirations.

Merkel reaches out to France's Macron on eurozone budget

German Chancellor Angela Merkel says she could back a eurozone finance minister and eurozone budget "if the circumstances are right".
French President Emmanuel Macron has argued strongly for both, in order to reform the eurozone.
Germany is wary of any move that might lead to a "transfer union" - a common budget used to prop up indebted governments in the 19-nation eurozone.
Many Germans resent the billions of euros spent on bailing out Greece.
The Berlin government does not want German taxpayers to have to underwrite high spending elsewhere in the EU without oversight.
Mrs Merkel said sensible changes could be introduced if they could be sure of improving the lives of European citizens, including generating work for young people. She was addressing German business leaders in Berlin.
"We could also consider a euro-budget if it is clear that we are really strengthening the structure of the economy and doing sensible things," she said.
President Macron's strongly pro-EU stance has boosted Mrs Merkel's position in the run-up to Germany's general elections in September.
But reforming the eurozone remains a major challenge. The 2008 financial crash and subsequent eurozone debt crisis led to high unemployment and painful public sector cuts in much of Europe.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40338756

BobQ

The next 12 months will see a lot of people turn on the Government once they realise that their zeal to get out of the EU last year is going to hit them hard in their pocket for the next decade.

cogito

BobQ wrote: »

The next 12 months will see a lot of people turn on the Government once they realise that their zeal to get out of the EU last year is going to hit them hard in their pocket for the next decade.

Why would they? They ignored government recommendations to vote remain. Not just once, but twice. First by voting to leave and second by voting for parties whose manifestos committed them to leave.

If they changed their minds about leaving, they could have voted for the LibDems.

mayonnaise

cogito wrote: »

Why would they? They ignored government recommendations to vote remain. Not just once, but twice. First by voting to leave and second by voting for parties whose manifestos committed them to leave.

Because they haven't been hit hard in the pocket - yet.

cogito wrote: »

If they changed their minds about leaving, they could have voted for the LibDems.

Even as a diehard Remoaner, I didn't vote LibDem.