Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Politico was renowned for it's pro-EU stance but it seems that they too are having an epiphany and reporting upon discord within the EU.

As well as the recent "Dishonest Germans" and "Summer Hotspots" reports, today we have this: "For someone who has put European integration at the top of his foreign policy agenda, Emmanuel Macron has shown little regard for France’s big southern neighbor, Italy."

Even the most Euro-friendly of Italian politicians have criticized Macron’s decision on STX. “It’s an industrial and political mistake. Using the narrative of national interest is demagogic and populist. He should know that it’s European competitiveness that can save France,” said Italian MEP Alessia Mosca, a member of former PM Matteo Renzi’s Democratic Party.

http://www.politico.eu/article/emmanuel-macrons-italian-snubs/

Isn't unity a wonderful thing.

always_sunny

cogito wrote: »

Why do call call yourself always_sunny when you're as miserable as a wet afternoon in Halifax? If someone gave you a million quid, you'd be looking for the snags.

That's what you think and I couldn't really care to be honest and just because I don't agree with your folly doesn't mean it's a sign of being miserable.
When you stop debating and actually going at personal attack [to me] it show how little value you add.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

A lesson in how not to encourage tourism?
"Tourists hit by airport delays longer than their flights amid tougher EU border controls"

Passengers have been forced to wait in queues for up to four hours - longer than some of their flights - after arriving at airports popular with British tourists.
The delays are reportedly being caused by the introduction of newly-toughened and more time consuming immigration checks.

Airlines for Europe (A4E), the association that represents carriers such as British Airways, Ryanair and easyJet, said lengthy delays had been caused by many countries failing to provide enough staff for passport checks.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/01/tourists-hit-airport-delays-longer-flights-amid-tougher-eu-border/


These checks may well have positive consequences for anti-terrorism efforts, but since each check takes approximately two minutes it does make you wonder why extra staff were not in place before the system was introduced. Especially when the requirement for introduction is by October 7th; no wonder there are warnings that the situation may worsen over the coming weeks.


All those experiencing delays are from non-Schengen countries BTW, not just the UK.
But at peak holiday time?

mayonnaise

Brexit: Majority of older Leave voters say significant economic damage is 'price worth paying'

71 per cent of over-65s would accept a big economic hit – and half are willing for family members to lose their jobs

:eek:

Wow. Just wow. I'm lost for words.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-leave-voters-uk-economy-damage-yougov-older-pensioners-losing-jobs-income-taxes-a7870871.html

A_Medium_Size_Jock

mayonnaise wrote: »

Brexit: Majority of older Leave voters say significant economic damage is 'price worth paying'

:eek:

Wow. Just wow. I'm lost for words.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-leave-voters-uk-economy-damage-yougov-older-pensioners-losing-jobs-income-taxes-a7870871.html

I did read that report and I admit I had to chuckle.
I particularly liked this line:

Only over-50s voted for Brexit last year.

Another great example of quality reporting there.

Conrad

ilovehouses wrote: »

Been here before.

Post Brexit we'll have our very own tariffs which I suspect we'll find will be the same as the EU's and I also suspect as the EU change their tariffs the UK will remarkably do the same.

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Your propensity to reject change & new ideas is your problem, no one else's. Brexit will be revolutionary, the fact you cannot see it is for you alone to ponder.


If Mankind had listened to those that kept with familiarity nothing would ever have changed.

Conrad

phillw wrote: »

Yeah, chlorinated chickens and the return of turkey Twizzlers. Those foreigners in the EU have been stopping Britain from taking a brave and righteous race to the bottom in the food industry for years.

Given your interest in quality & standards what are your thoughts on;


1) European produced salads washed in bleach / chlorine


2) French force feeding of geese


3) Various European nations confining veal calves to dark cramped crates


4) Far poorer live transport standards




As a thinking person you will need to explain your seeming blindness to European poor standards.

Herzlos

always_sunny wrote: »

Maybe the "75% of the 890 European Medicines Agency workers wanted to stay in London" would also like the UK to stay in the EU but it still does not change the fact that Brexit will happen and the agencies will move.

There's also a huge a huge difference between people saying they want to stay in London, and refusing to move to the EU.

For instance, I don't want to work in Newcastle, but if my job moved there I'm fairly certain I'd still move there if my boss told me to.

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Regarding the formation of new UK agencies as a result of Brexit, today we have this news:
"Brexit: Up to 20 new agencies to be launched outside London to takeover tasks previously done in Brussels"

And you claim that part of the reason we want to leave the EU is to cut down on bureaucracy within the EU, whilst being happy that we'll need to duplicate the work of 20 new agencies.

That's a lot of jobs that are adding nothing to the economy but costing us a lot in tax. They are either going to be mirroring work done by their EU equivalent, or spending a lot of time converting from one system to the other.

It'd certainly be good if they were based up North somewhere, but we'll need to see how that pans out.

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

1) European produced salads washed in bleach / chlorine

Do you have any reference to this? All I've found is a 2015 Daily Mail article written by a woman trying to sell a book.

I should add though, that the chlorine in the chicken scandal is only a small part of it, and some small quantity of chlorine isn't particularly unhealthy. My bigger concern with US chicken is the fact it spends most of it's life sat in faeces and surrounded by dead, rotting chickens.

2) French force feeding of geese


3) Various European nations confining veal calves to dark cramped crates

I don't imagine many people in the UK approve of either.

4) Far poorer live transport standards

It's good we've got higher standards, but what's that got to do with anything? We've currently got respectable food standards, and some trade deals are likely to require us to drop the standards. Is it worth it for slightly cheaper food? I'm not sure.



As a thinking person you will need to explain your seeming blindness to European poor standards.[/QUOTE]