Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

A_Medium_Size_Jock

*Warning*
Opinion piece ahead.
But nonetheless I thought that this was worthy of consideration in regard to Brexit:

If you want a picture of Britain’s future relationship with the European Union, think of Canada’s with the United States. Canadians have a type of federation on their doorstep that they decline to join, but with which they enjoy the closest possible diplomatic, military and economic ties. Two years from now, in a similar vein, the European Union will have lost a bad tenant and gained a good neighbor.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/31/opinion/brexit-european-union-good-news.html

mayonnaise

Fella wrote: »

This sums up several things:

1. Labour's utter confusion on every aspect of Brexit.
2. The current Labour front-bench's monumental stupidity.
3. And likewise it's collossal dishonesty.

Thank God those actually in charge are so united and on message. :rotfl:

May Takes ‘Back Seat’ as U.K. Cabinet Squabbles Over Brexit

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-31/may-takes-back-seat-as-u-k-cabinet-squabbles-over-brexit

A_Medium_Size_Jock

mayonnaise wrote: »

Thank God those actually in charge are so united and on message. :rotfl:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-31/may-takes-back-seat-as-u-k-cabinet-squabbles-over-brexit

How unlike you to promote such media nonsense.


Quite besides the fact that it is very probably no more that the continuation of a media desire to grasp every possible anti-leave insinuation they can, I note you chose that in preference to these, all also from today:

Michael Fallon:
"Defence Secretary: Cabinet united on Brexit policy"

http://news.sky.com/video/defence-secretary-cabinet-united-on-brexit-policy-10968716

Mr Hunt denied there were deep splits in the Cabinet over Brexit, instead claiming there was unity on securing a deal that restores control over Britain's laws, borders and money.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-hunt-nhs-eu-immigrant-workers-citizens-cabinet-brexit-row-amber-rudd-philip-hammond-european-a7868416.html

The cabinet is “absolutely united” behind a gradual, business-friendly Brexit, Jeremy Hunt has said

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/31/cabinet-united-on-avoiding-brexit-cliff-edge-departure-says-hunt

Thrugelmir

mayonnaise wrote: »

And the relevance to the UK fishing industry's conundrum of overwhelmingly voting for Brexit while hoping they keep border- and tariff-free access to the Single Market is.....?

Perhaps it'll make fish more affordable. As it was pre EU days. A valuable source of food for the UK.

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Michael Fallon:
"Defence Secretary: Cabinet united on Brexit policy"

I don't doubt they are saying that. But if that's the case why do they keep contradicting themselves & each other in public statements?

Are they in disarray or just incompetent when it comes to making public statements?

Is it some elaborate ruse to lull the EU into a false sense of security?

mayonnaise

UK chancellor Philip Hammond has told business leaders he wants to negotiate a simple “off-the-shelf” transition deal

https://www.ft.com/content/cc1dbf04-71fc-11e7-aca6-c6bd07df1a3c

Downing Street has said the UK will not seek an “off-the-shelf” model for a post-Brexit transitional period

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/31/no-10-rejects-off-the-shelf-transitional-deal-for-brexit

buglawton

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

*Warning*
Opinion piece ahead.
But nonetheless I thought that this was worthy of consideration in regard to Brexit:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/31/opinion/brexit-european-union-good-news.html

Good one. And I'd 10 times over rather have a 'easy movement of people' deal with the USA than a free movement one with the EU.

Conrad

mayonnaise wrote: »

And the relevance to the UK fishing industry's conundrum of overwhelmingly voting for Brexit while hoping they keep border- and tariff-free access to the Single Market is.....?

Are you on the tipple again?

Really, you need something so simple explaining yet again?

Any harm to our ability to trade, is of course harm for Holland and the others that trade heavily with the U.K.

You know we've come to Europes rescue twice as Pachendale today illustrates so well. You Remainers are bonkers if you can't see there is just no way Europe will seek to harm us.

Conrad

Herzlos wrote: »

I don't doubt they are saying that. But if that's the case why do they keep contradicting themselves & each other in public statements?

Are they in disarray or just incompetent when it comes to making public statements?

Is it some elaborate ruse to lull the EU into a false sense of security?

So you'veseen all the links here to European Govts stating trade with UK must not be harmed, in contrast to the murmerings from Barnier and co, but of course they are not in chaos, on no it's always us in chaos according to Remainer logic.

kabayiri

Herzlos wrote: »

I don't doubt they are saying that. But if that's the case why do they keep contradicting themselves & each other in public statements?
...

Have you ever known the Tory party to say the same thing over Europe?

It is probably the one topic which has stirred up divisions for the last 3 decades....and you expect it to all change now?

But, for balance, Sadiq Khan is no better. I think that snake is angling for Jezzer's job.