Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

setmefree2

mayonnaise wrote: »

May's Ministers Plot Softer Brexit to Keep U.K. in Single Market



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-11/may-s-ministers-plot-softer-brexit-to-keep-u-k-in-single-market

Good news, I think we can all agree.

Quote from that Article

“It’s very hard to see how a hard or disruptive Brexit can come out of this,” Tony Travers, professor of politics at London School of Economics, said in an interview. The British public have in effect voted “to leave the European Union but in a way that doesn’t affect their lives or their jobs or anything to do with them or their sector,” he said.

I would say - after the election result - that people don't seem to have the stomach for what is going to be required of us all to Brexit????

setmefree2

Same article

What’s becoming clear, though, is that May’s Tory party is on the brink of another bitter round of infighting over Brexit, with pro-Europeans now feeling they have a chance to change the direction of policy. May faces a showdown with party lawmakers on Monday.“She’s got to form a consensus,” lawmaker Anna Soubry, a former minister who wanted to keep the U.K in the EU, told the BBC. “The British people have rejected a hard Brexit.”

“You only have to see the ardent pro-Brexiteers out and about on the TV today saying nothing has changed to know that everything has changed,” said Travers. He said May is more likely to be able to get support in Parliament with a softer Brexit policy that could gain the backing of Labour, the Liberal Democrats and even the anti-Brexit SNP, even if that meant losing the votes of Brexiteers in her own party.
May wouldn’t have enough votes in Parliament to support her vision of a hard Brexit, and would find it very difficult to pass laws, one minister said. This means the kind of deal she seeks with the EU will inevitably be softer, that person said, speaking on condition of anonymity. It could even lead to the U.K. remaining inside the EU’s single market and customs union, which May had planned to leave.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-11/may-s-ministers-plot-softer-brexit-to-keep-u-k-in-single-market

padington

The tories have a couple more pawns on the board but the position of their chess pieces is laughable.

setmefree2

When even Nigel Farage concedes it might be time for Brexit-lite, it is clear that Thursday’s general election is fast scrambling what few certainties there were left about Britain’s departure from the European Union.

“I think we are probably headed towards a Norway-type situation two-and-a-half years down the road,” former Ukip leader Farage told BBC Newsnight on Saturday. “Norway is better than where we are now ... it’s certainly not where I want to finish up [but] I do think now there will be backsliding.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/11/brexit-lite-back-on-table-as-britain-rethinks-options-after-election

setmefree2

George Osborne: No ‘hard Brexit’

Ex-British chancellor says there are no longer the votes to sever all British ties from the European Union.

After Thursday’s eye-opening elections in Britain, there are no longer the votes for a “hard Brexit” in Britain’s Parliament, former Chancellor George Osborne told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria on Sunday.
“It’s not clear what takes it place,” said Osborne, now the editor of the Evening Standard newspaper, in discussing Brexit and the future of the Conservative Party following big election losses for Theresa May’s government.

Speaking on “Fareed Zakaria GPS,” Osborne said that Britain would have to rethink its departure from the European Union so that the break was not as absolute — a “soft Brexit” rather than a hard one.

http://www.politico.eu/article/george-osborne-no-hard-brexit/

chucknorris

By 'soft Brexit' are we talking about staying in the single market and therefore having to agree to freedom of movement? If so, what will have been gained by leaving the EU, apart from more powerful hoovers?

setmefree2

chucknorris wrote: »

By 'soft Brexit' are we talking about staying in the single market and therefore having to agree to freedom of movement?

Yes...........

setmefree2

Where are all our MSE Brexiters?

Edit - looks like a fair few have been PPRed.

chucknorris

setmefree2 wrote: »

Yes...........

In that case, I am struggling to see what will have been gained from leaving the EU? It doesn't bother me that much as I voted remaim, but wasn't the freedom of movement the main thing that Brexiteers wanted? I know some were concerned about the EU imposing laws, but I always thought that was their second choice (to FOM). Or am I missing something?

Herzlos

setmefree2 wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/11/scottish-tories-expected-vote-bloc-protect-scotlands-interests

That's a welcome surprise. She's been pretty keen to avoid saying anything that might upset the wider party, hopefully she's got some confidence in her new sway (as her bloc still has the ability to essentially veto anything).