Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

padington

Funny how many Brexiteer bozo's around here have squirreled back into their cage recently.

Did you seen Ken Clark on election night, he said something like the overwhelming majority of MP's will privately admit that Brexit is not in the national interest, they just think their electorate wants it, so they say they want it.

Boris, Gove, Murdock, Daily Mail and the Sun deserve to be done for something close to treason for the waste of hard earned public money they have spent on this debacle.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

I can not see the EU being prepared for this uncertainty to last past the end of March 2019.

The uncertainty ends in March 2019. As the UK has given the required notice to leave the union. The concern for the EU must be that it ends in a complete and utter shambles.

gfplux

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The uncertainty ends in March 2019. As the UK has given the required notice to leave the union. The concern for the EU must be that it ends in a complete and utter shambles.

You mean the negotiations ending with a walk out? Surely that is unlikely now Britain will have to stop throwing insults and will want to do a deal.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

You mean the negotiations ending with a walk out?

Doesn't require a walk out. Simply no acceptable agreement. After all there's not 27 EU parties but 38. Many with very different views.

hallmark

padington wrote: »

Funny how many Brexiteer bozo's around here have squirreled back into their cage recently.

Haha, it's impossible for a Remainer to spit out a whole sentence without it containing at least some bile.

padington wrote: »

Did you seen Ken Clark on election night, he said something like the overwhelming majority of MP's will privately admit that Brexit is not in the national interest, they just think their electorate wants it, so they say they want it.

Ummm, hate to break it to you but Ken Clarke is an uber-remainer. Did you not realise? Did you not realise that politicians tend to say whatever suits their cause? Most of us did realise that.

padington wrote: »

Boris, Gove, Murdock, Daily Mail and the Sun deserve to be done for something close to treason for the waste of hard earned public money they have spent on this debacle.

After 30+ years the public were finally given a vote on Eu membership & you don't think they should have been. That says an awful lot about your view of democracy.


Brexit is still going to happen so don't get too happy :j:j:j

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

If only!

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The one certainty in life is no certainty. Focusing on what you can do is what matters.

phillw

hallmark wrote: »

That says an awful lot about your view of democracy.

We don't have a democracy, we have a bunch of people who either ignore or can't see what their decisions will do who are controlled by those with a vested interest.

brexit was always going to happen. Not because it was a good idea, but because it's easy to manipulate people by telling them they are voting for freedom.

I'm sure in 10 or 20 years time then we'll join the EU again, after the youngsters who had their opportunities stolen away from them get to vote.

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The uncertainty ends in March 2019. As the UK has given the required notice to leave the union. The concern for the EU must be that it ends in a complete and utter shambles.

They can extend the discussions and it's likely we'll have an interim period. Otherwise we'll have a civil war when the leavers see what a hard brexit really looks like.

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Ever been to Norway? I was shocked how much even a can of beans cost. Let alone a leg of lamb.

You're just used to the cut price cost of terrible food that we con ourselves into buying in the UK.

padington wrote: »

Boris, Gove, Murdock, Daily Mail and the Sun deserve to be done for something close to treason for the waste of hard earned public money they have spent on this debacle.

You missed out Farage. Eventually he'll admit that he only started this because of marital problems with his German wife & actually we were better off in the EU along. The Daily Mail are Nazi supporters (yes really https://leftfootforward.org/2014/02/the-daily-mail-are-we-sorry-we-backed-the-nazis/). The billionaire Rupert Murdoch uses the Sun as a way to forward his own agenda, not that of it's readers.

Gove is ineffectual, but Boris is still on the loose and dangerous. If he gets theresa's job then we'd be better off living in 1970's britain with the three day week.

Tromking

Macron and German finance Minister (Schauble?) stating that the door is open if the UK changes its mind on Brexit. Art.50 is clearly reversible in that case. Soft Brexit will not be on the table and a hard Brexit will not get past this Parliament.We aint leaving the EU.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Tromking wrote: »

Art.50 is clearly reversible in that case.

Yes.

Soft Brexit will not be on the table and a hard Brexit will not get past this Parliament.

I agree a hard Brexit will not get past this parliament.

But it appears highly likely EEA/EFTA membership will be available to us if we want it.

So a soft Brexit appears achievable if 'Mayhem & The Brexiteers' can start putting our national interest before pride and ideology.

We aint leaving the EU.

If we're lucky.... I doubt we'll be that lucky however.

Tromking

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

But it appears highly likely EEA/EFTA membership will be available to us if we want it.

My only thought on that is which political party has stood on a platform of EEA/EFTA membership? Where`s the mandate?
There could feasibly be as many leavers unhappy with that scenario as remainers.
I can't see that deal happening without another GE or God forbid, another referendum.