Vacuum cleaners to be further enfeebled from Sept 2017

macman

lstar337 wrote: »

Dysons seem to be mostly hype in my experience.

The fundamental issue is emptying the damn thing because it doesn't have a bag! This is the feature they are claiming is so brilliant?

Forgive me if I fail to see the brilliance of dust puffing up everywhere if I can't make an airtight seal between the Dyson and the kitchen dustbin, or having to use some kind of long implement to get the remaining dust/hair clumps of the internal filter, or having the dust blow up in my face by the wind if I dare to save my kitchen by trying to empty it into the wheelie bin in the garden.

With the Henry I just pop out the bag which self seals as it comes out, and throw it in the bin.

Owning both, I regularly choose to use the Henry over the Dyson. More complicated doesn't mean better, and the Henry is the simplest beast you can imagine!

No, the feature that distinguishes all Dysons is that they use cyclonic filtration. The bagless function is just a subsidiary consequence of that.
Try releasing the cyclone bin flap after lowering it into a wheeliebin.

Norman_Castle

patman99 wrote: »

I bet once again industrial vacs will be exempted.

Problem solved. Luddites can buy industrial vacuums.

macman

Jackmydad wrote: »

I wonder if any work has been done to equate the amount of suck on various machines with the amount of power used.
I've got a feeling that might well be an eye opener. i'll bet the manufacturers wouldn't like it.
As you say though Coffeehound. At the end of the day we pay for any redesigns.

It has. The rating is called air watts.
The problem with current EU testing is that it uses brand new, 100% clean machines, so those with bags will perform comparably comparison to bagless models. But James Dyson's contention is that the tests should be done under real life conditions, when the bagged machines have done a few hours and the bags have started to clog, so reducing greatly the suction. And he's now won his case on appeal at the European Court of Justice.