Backdated fit note from GP?

surreysaver

Undervalued wrote: »

Probably I'm afraid but once again, with limited resources, what is the alternative?

The OP contacting PALS at the CCG would probably help, but getting a bit late for that now. Could end up being an A&E job.

surreysaver

MonkeyDr wrote: »

Absolutely your right to do so, of course.

I have seen plenty of cases where people do not want their GP to know about certain conditions (e.g. HIV if they are worried about stigma), and I totally respect it. But I always remind them that in withholding the information they may be putting their health at risk as the GP may e.g. prescribe something that interferes with their HIV meds, or under/over-investigate a symptom because they didn't have the full picture. I recommend finding another GP who they trust.

It's not about not trusting the GP. It's about not trusting the NHS, so finding another GP wouldn't make a difference. Unless registering with another GP temporarily with a false identification.
But Im not on any medication, and I don't have any conditions, so no risk of harm (at the current time)

Savvy_Sue

surreysaver wrote: »

But its something anyone can do if they want. For example they might not want their regular GP to know something; they might be on holiday somewhere; they might not be registered with a GP.

Do the details of the appointment elsewhere not get sent to the regular GP?

surreysaver

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

Do the details of the appointment elsewhere not get sent to the regular GP?

How? If the patient withholds details of their own GP, or states they do not want the information passed on (I know its not normal practice within the NHS to ask consent to pass information on before sharing it), then how can the details be passed to the regular GP?

xapprenticex

My docs are busy and i can get one within a week the latest. You should try a larger doctor or go private (assuming your workplace has a scheme)

agrinnall

surreysaver wrote: »

How? If the patient withholds details of their own GP, or states they do not want the information passed on (I know its not normal practice within the NHS to ask consent to pass information on before sharing it), then how can the details be passed to the regular GP?

I've never needed to do what you suggest, but wouldn't the patient in your scenario have to provide some sort of ID (probably NINO if they don't know, or want to give, their NHS number), or be presented with a bill for treatment? And having provided ID, that can be tracked back to the GP where they are registered.

Nicki

xapprenticex wrote: »

My docs are busy and i can get one within a week the latest. You should try a larger doctor or go private (assuming your workplace has a scheme)

Can a private GP provide a sick line? When I was ill a few years ago and under the care of a private consultant he would ask my NHS GP to write the fit note.

Also private GPS can't write NHS prescriptions so costs can quickly mount up if you have multiple chronic conditions and need a lot of monthly meds.

surreysaver

agrinnall wrote: »

I've never needed to do what you suggest, but wouldn't the patient in your scenario have to provide some sort of ID (probably NINO if they don't know, or want to give, their NHS number), or be presented with a bill for treatment? And having provided ID, that can be tracked back to the GP where they are registered.

There's no legal requirement to provide ID. You can provide your NHS number, but if you object to them passing information on to your GP they have to respect that. But there are ways and means of preventing them tracking you back to your GP

agrinnall

surreysaver wrote: »

There's no legal requirement to provide ID. You can provide your NHS number, but if you object to them passing information on to your GP they have to respect that. But there are ways and means of preventing them tracking you back to your GP

But surely that should mean (in theory if not actually in practice) that the failure to provide ID will require treatment to be paid for? If you can't show that you are entitled to free treatment then the NHS is entitled to recover the cost - otherwise what would be the point of anyone coming to the UK having an EHIC and/or travel insurance including medical cover?

surreysaver

agrinnall wrote: »

But surely that should mean (in theory if not actually in practice) that the failure to provide ID will require treatment to be paid for? If you can't show that you are entitled to free treatment then the NHS is entitled to recover the cost - otherwise what would be the point of anyone coming to the UK having an EHIC and/or travel insurance including medical cover?

They can ask for ID. There is no legal requirement to provide it, and they cannot withhold treatment on basis you haven't got ID. Anyone could provide false details anyway of a real NHS patient. What if you are homeless - you wouldn't have ID then, and the CCG are legally responsible for paying for your treatment.