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breadboy05

I received a letter on Friday telling me that I have until Tuesday to pay a fine of £160.00 from over a month ago or face court!!!!

It's Smart Parking Ltd in ASDA in Poole

This is the first time I've had any correspondence from them!!!

The_Deep

It is not a fine, it is an invoice. Is this the first letter you have received from Smart?


There are lots of Smart/Lidl threads on here, do a search for them. Have you read the stickies?

breadboy05

The_Deep wrote: »

It is not a fine, it is an invoice. Is this the first letter you have received from Smart?


There are lots of Smart/Lidl threads on here, do a search for them. Have you read the stickies?

Definitely the first letter... dated 9/5/17 but received on 19/5/17

how can you tell if it's not a fine??

The_Deep

by using a serach engine


https://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=&oq=fine+legal&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GUEA_en-GBGB707GB707&q=fine+legal+definition&gs_l=hp..0.0l2j0i22i30l3.0.0.0.6658...........0.wQFdGjPYbh8&gws_rd=ssl

beamerguy

breadboy05 wrote: »

Definitely the first letter... dated 9/5/17 but received on 19/5/17

how can you tell if it's not a fine??

What date did they say the ticket was issued

It is not a fine because private parking do not have any authority
to issue fines

They are just invoices (in the hope you will pay)

PasturesNew

Double check the date too, I'm sure I was there about a month or so ago and there were signs telling people not to pay to park. I didn't pay much attention I'm afraid, but I did check/ask and it was confirmed that I didn't have to pay to park.

Not sure why .... but there were printed paper signs dotted around at the time.

Umkomaas

The_Deep wrote: »

It is not a fine, it is an invoice. Is this the first letter you have received from Smart?


There are lots of Smart/Lidl threads on here, do a search for them. Have you read the stickies?

@TD - pssst, its Asda, not Lidl.

breadboy05

beamerguy wrote: »

What date did they say the ticket was issued

It is not a fine because private parking do not have any authority
to issue fines

They are just invoices (in the hope you will pay)

Well, it's dated as the 'offense' 01/04/17, and date of Notice 09/05/17, as others have said, how can you get fined for parking in a free ASDA car park??

No ticket was issued as my son was in the car the whole time revising for his upcoming A Levels!!!

I going to ask for Photographic Proof of my car with time stamps (for what it's worth)

beamerguy

breadboy05 wrote: »

Well, it's dated as the 'offense' 01/04/17, and date of Notice 09/05/17, as others have said, how can you get fined for parking in a free ASDA car park??

No ticket was issued as my son was in the car the whole time revising for his upcoming A Levels!!!

I going to ask for Photographic Proof of my car with time stamps (for what it's worth)

OK, well it's early days for you.
This was ANPR hence no ticket on the car
ANPR has been proven as a dodgy system

You are allowed about 12 minutes either way as a grace period
so that's 24 mins in and out.

When you say FREE, what did the signs say ?
They normally would say "parking free for 2 hours" or whatever limit they apply.

If you were shopping in Asda, have proof of purchase then you complain directly to Asda and ask them to cancel

Fruitcake

breadboy05 wrote: »

Well, it's dated as the 'offense' 01/04/17, and date of Notice 09/05/17, as others have said, how can you get fined for parking in a free ASDA car park??

No ticket was issued as my son was in the car the whole time revising for his upcoming A Levels!!!

I going to ask for Photographic Proof of my car with time stamps (for what it's worth)

A private company or individual cannot fine anybody. What you have received is not therefore a fine, so please don't refer to it as such because,
1) It annoys the regulars who are trying to help you,
2) In the unlikely event of court, calling it a fine will imply that you are giving it some legitimacy that it does not have.

Don't 'phone anyone.
Complain to the BPA and DVLA that Not so Smart have gone straight to debt collection without issuing a NTK.
Complain to ASDA management/CEO (not customer services) that genuine customers are being scammed and if they want to retain you and everyone you know as customers they should cancel this fifthwith.
If they tell you they don't own the land, they are probably lying. ASDA usually do but for some reason try to spread the myth that they don't.

Leave negative feedback on social media to warn other shoppers about the scam, especially if Associated Dairies won't/don't help.

In any case, treat this as the NTK and send the BPA template in blue to Not so Smart. Do not contact debt drawlers at all, ever.

Complain to your MP, Mrs May, and Andrew Jones MP telling them that your vote is dependent on their response. Also tell them to contact the Right Honourable Jacob Rees-Mogg MP who is very knowledgeable on this subject and and was very forceful about it in a recent parliamentary debate on the subject.

Coupon-mad

breadboy05 wrote: »

I received a letter on Friday telling me that I have until Tuesday to pay a fine of £160.00 from over a month ago or face court!!!!

It's Smart Parking Ltd in ASDA in Poole

This is the first time I've had any correspondence from them!!!

Get a grip, it's only Smart. Calm down.

Even when they tried a claim last month, a poster here got it discontinued by defending it, with our help.

breadboy05 wrote: »

I going to ask for Photographic Proof of my car with time stamps (for what it's worth)

Why do you say 'for what its worth?' It is only Smart and we see these fake PCNs off every day of the week!

The registered keeper (you?) can appeal if the first letter was dated May. This is simple to appeal for a keeper, using the BPA Appeal template in the NEWBIES thread at the top of the forum. DO NOT imply the driver, at all. Use the template.

And what happened when you (as you would) complained to the Store Manager at Asda to cancel this piece of trash?