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How to stabilise a wall plug within a far too big hole?

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The bit of my rotary hammer drill (same as that one) rotate with an angle resulting in a horribly bad precision drilling (and holes far too big for the plugs I intend to use). Sidenote: I need this type of hammer because the external walls of my house are too hard for hammer drills.

Is there a way, once the gaping hole is done, to maybe fill it with cement or something and at some point to insert the plug so that when the cement is complete the plug is stable?

Maybe some better solution exists too, I'm open to suggestions.
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  • Mr.Generous
    Mr.Generous Posts: 3,967 Forumite
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    Put the plug in then hammer in some slivers of timber to make it tight. Before nylon plugs were invented we fixed stuff by just using bits of wood hammered in tight. If its a small gap something like cocktail sticks will do, if its very loose (buy a new drill bit) you can use anything up to a pencil size.

    The tongue from old floor boards makes great plugging timber if you have any. You can buy plugging compound if you really need it. I wouldn't bother. I think you need a smaller drill bit or one that's not bent. SDS bits come in various sizes. 6mm good for most std plugs.
    Mr Generous - Landlord for more than 10 years. Generous? - Possibly but sarcastic more likely.
  • Ebe_Scrooge
    Ebe_Scrooge Posts: 7,320 Forumite
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    The simplest way would be to mix up a small amount of mortar, fill the hole and let it set. Then you can re-drill the hole.


    The only thing I would say - if whatever you're drilling the hole for is pretty heavy, I'd be tempted to fill the hole then drill a different hole an inch or so to the side, if possible. Plugs/screws that are inserted into mortar are not as strong as those drilled into solid brick.
  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    Could you use a different drill bit or bigger plugs?
  • MisterP123
    MisterP123 Posts: 229 Forumite
    It shouldn't rotate at an angle. Probably a new (good quality) SDS bit will help.

    You can always stick some matches in if the holes not too big, or a bigger plug and larger screw.
  • http://www.wickes.co.uk/Fischer-Wet-%27n%27-Fix-Pack-10/p/511151

    Always worth keeping a pack in the toolbox.
  • Wookey
    Wookey Posts: 812 Forumite
    As MrGenerous says plug it with a piece of timber or dowel, whittle down one end into a slow taper with a chisel or stanley knife and then hammer it into the wall and then chisel it of flush with the wall, you may need to drill a small pilot hole into the plug to give your screw an easier start.

    Buy a new drill bit, it sounds like the drill has been dropped onto the drill bit to bend it slightly or something heavy dropped onto it.
    Norn Iron Club member No 353
  • Ganga
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    http://www.wickes.co.uk/Fischer-Wet-%27n%27-Fix-Pack-10/p/511151

    Always worth keeping a pack in the toolbox.

    Good idea,evertime i drill in plasterboard end up with bigger hole.
  • trailingspouse
    trailingspouse Posts: 4,042 Forumite
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    From experience of renovating several elderly houses, I would say the traditional solution is old newspaper...
    No longer a spouse, or trailing, but MSE won't allow me to change my username...
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    definitely invest in some straight bits so you can drill more accurate sized holes.

    could upgrade from a plug to a wall anchor but might be overkill for a lightweight job.
  • gilbutre
    gilbutre Posts: 453 Forumite
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    Thanks all for the input! My bit looks flawless and isn't bent or anything. I really don't understand why it fits with an angle, there was no angle last time I used it a year ago or two.
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