At what speed do you get a speeding ticket on the M25?

waamo

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

My thoughts exactly!

Took me over 3 hours to do a 1 hour journey on there recently.

They call it the biggest car park in the SE for a good reason!

The Heathrow section is usually tail to tail. I go through it fairly regularly. It crawls along so slowly I turn off the stop/start function as it becomes a nuisance rather than a help.

Building another runway there will be madness, the area can't cope now so what it will be like with even more than traffic I hate to think.

kmb500

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

My thoughts exactly!

Took me over 3 hours to do a 1 hour journey on there recently.

They call it the biggest car park in the SE for a good reason!

I regularly use the M25, for a section that's about 45 miles, and never had to drive slower than 70 due to traffic congestion. I'm usually driving after 6pm though on a weekday so not in rush hour I guess.

iolanthe07

I try to avoid the M25, but had to drive on it last August on a Sunday (not the Bank Holiday weekend). It took me an hour and three quarters to drive nine miles. I hate the bloody road with a passion.

paddyandstumpy

I thought Palgrave/Literzo/km500 had PPR?

greatgimpo

waamo wrote: »

The Heathrow section is usually tail to tail.

So someone's going the wrong way then!:rotfl:

Mercdriver

paddyandstumpy wrote: »

I thought Palgrave/Literzo/km500 had PPR?

Palgrave and Liltzero do. The join date of kmb500 is August 2015, so I'm not convinced they are DM. I don't think DM is quite that organised to have many many AE ready set up.

The join dates of Liltzero and Palgrave were Dec 16 and March 17 respectively.

AdrianC

iolanthe07 wrote: »

I try to avoid the M25, but had to drive on it last August on a Sunday (not the Bank Holiday weekend). It took me an hour and three quarters to drive nine miles. I hate the bloody road with a passion.

The M25's problem is that it's too successful.

Just think about what would happen if it wasn't there. Let's say it was closed for the entire length for a day...

POPPYOSCAR

AdrianC wrote: »

The M25's problem is that it's too successful.

Just think about what would happen if it wasn't there. Let's say it was closed for the entire length for a day...

Yes, it never used to be like that.

Even with the extra lane it is getting worse.

JP08

AdrianC wrote: »

The M25's problem is that it's too successful.

Just think about what would happen if it wasn't there. Let's say it was closed for the entire length for a day...

I used to say the same thing about the London Underground (back when I cared) when people were moaning about the cost / crowding / unreliability / speed. Tell them that they could always take the alternatives. Normally would get a list of reasons why driving / walking / cycling / taking the bus wouldn't work for them - to which the response was "So you're using the best / most cost effective method then ? What are you moaning about ?"

Never went down well.

POPPYOSCAR

waamo wrote: »

The Heathrow section is usually tail to tail. I go through it fairly regularly. It crawls along so slowly I turn off the stop/start function as it becomes a nuisance rather than a help.

Building another runway there will be madness, the area can't cope now so what it will be like with even more than traffic I hate to think.

I agree.

No joined up thinking sometimes from the powers that be.

Our local plan has thousands of new houses proposed but the infrastructure will just not be able to cope.