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  • motorguy
    motorguy Posts: 22,623 Forumite
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    Apologies for another car question!
    Would any of you buy a diesel at the moment? A few years old....

    Yup.

    Just have. 2016 Passat TDI SE Business.

    55-60mpg, £20 a year road tax, cheap to insure. :beer:
  • motorguy
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    I'm just concerned about potential government taxation on diesel vehicles. Although the new cars seem to be affected, and those older than 2009 likely to be subject to charges to drive in certain areas, there is nothing to say the government won't try and affect all diesel owners by adding a few extra p on per litre at the pump....

    They might... but our entire transport industry depends on diesel. Increase diesel costs = increased transportation costs for pretty much everything = inflation.

    And besides a few exta p per litre? Still going to be way better than the "equivalent" petrol variant (where one exists)
  • motorguy
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    Rather than being difficult I'd prefer some constructive advice.
    Likelihood of 50p tax being thrown on a loaf of bread - low.
    Likelihood of 50p tax being added to diesel - moderate to high......

    A car is more expensive and more risky than a loaf of bread.

    Addressed already - but think it through - what would that do to haulage and public transport costs?
  • motorguy
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    liltzero wrote: »
    petrol all the way

    We've a 25mpg petrol guzzler and a 60mpg diesel sipper.

    Half of me hates the other half... :o
  • goodwithsaving
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    edited 15 May 2017 at 8:15PM
    Many more good points, thank you. I hadn't thought of the lorries etc.
    I think, because my petrol returns 50mpg average I've been hesitant. But I want a bigger car due to a lot of driving on quite nasty roads and the petrol ones aren't efficient.....
    I've heard there's some filter thing (I know nothing about cars) implemented post-2009 which means only 2009 ones are likely to have to pay the charges in certain cities.
    I think I'm just anxious of buying something which will cost me dear later on.
    Food for thought, thank you all.
  • Stoke
    Stoke Posts: 3,182 Forumite
    Short term diesel, i.e. Bangernomics......

    Long term, no chance. Petrol all the way.
  • Iceweasel
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    I hadn't thought of the lorries etc.

    Food for thought, thank you all.

    Most people don't.

    Everything you eat, wear, or use, came on a truck.

    Increase diesel prices and we all have to pay extra for everything.

    As far as town centres and Low Emission Zones are concerned I would have all old diesels (cars, vans & trucks) banned completely.

    Only those with Euro5 or Euro6 engines should be allowed to enter the LEZs - easy to check with a cheap to buy windscreen sticker system (available to buy at verifying MOT stations) as in many countries on mainland Europe.

    The UK concept of charging the 'dirty' vehicles is simply a money raising 'cash-cow' which gives councils extra cash without reducing pollution at all.
  • reeac
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    [QUOTE=Iceweasel;72555116

    The UK concept of charging the 'dirty' vehicles is simply a money raising 'cash-cow' which gives councils extra cash without reducing pollution at all.[/QUOTE]
    Giving councils extra cash isn't entirely a bad thing to do.
  • motorguy
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    Stoke wrote: »
    Short term diesel, i.e. Bangernomics......

    Long term, no chance. Petrol all the way.

    I think diesel cars will drop in prevalence, however that tide shift will continue and petrols will be the next to go, as we move towards hybrids and electric cars.

    Diesel will be with us for a long time yet, as will petrol but its dominance in the marketplace will drop. I dont think thats a bad thing anyway. Diesel became the default choice for new car buyers which was wrong TBH.
  • motorguy
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    reeac wrote: »
    Giving councils extra cash isn't entirely a bad thing to do.

    True, however giving them the autonomy to do it as they please is.
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